***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[wazu]

Originally Posted by TLO

Anyone know how accurate the Quest Diagnostic antibody test is?

I believe the industry term is "dead on balls".

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by TLO

Anyone know how accurate the Quest Diagnostic antibody test is?

I would be curious to know as I am interested in getting it done but not if it's an ify test

[kgrund]

Originally Posted by DaFace

Eh, you wouldn't see the impact of a spike yet. Time will tell.

Why would you not? We were told takes two weeks to see results. Many States reopened first on month and we are floating around two weeks.

[Demonpenz]

I like to throw stupid opinions out there (hot takes if you will) then root for them.

[TLO]

Originally Posted by petegz28

I would be curious to know as I am interested in getting it done but not if it's an ify test

$119 to probably get a "no". But who knows.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by TLO

$119 to probably get a "no". But who knows.

Well then you know you can get it at least. It would be cool to know I had it and stuff though. Would take a lot of anxiety out of the mix if you knew you were at very minimal risk.

[OnTheWarpath15]

Originally Posted by petegz28

I would be curious to know as I am interested in getting it done but not if it's an ify test

My doc has told me that currently, it's a waste of time and money to get tested.

With that said, it could be because of the test he has access to, and not an overarching issue.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by kgrund

Why would you not? We were told takes two weeks to see results. Many States reopened first on month and we are floating around two weeks.

We could be seeing spikes from places like Georgia, Florida and Texas right now. And the 2 weeks thing is a touch arbitrary as you can get symptoms within 2 days as well. There is not hard and fast rule that it takes 2 weeks. Just that it could take up to 2 weeks.

[TLO]

Originally Posted by petegz28

Well then you know you can get it at least. It would be cool to know I had it and stuff though. Would take a lot of anxiety out of the mix if you knew you were at very minimal risk.

Let's see if anyone weighs in with how accurate the test is supposed to be. My own research hasn't said much one way or the other.

[jdubya]

Originally Posted by petegz28

We could be seeing spikes from places like Georgia, Florida and Texas right now. And the 2 weeks thing is a touch arbitrary as you can get symptoms within 2 days as well. There is not hard and fast rule that it takes 2 weeks. Just that it could take up to 2 weeks.

Agree. I have heard symptoms occur most commonly at 2 to 6 day mark. 14 days is the absolute outset I believe

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by jdubya

Agree. I have heard symptoms occur most commonly at 2 to 6 day mark. 14 days is the absolute outset I believe

Yes but this poses the ultimate question. If all these people have been locked down for going on 8 weeks in some cases, how the **** do you still have all these supposed asymptomatic people running around?

My theory is literally 30x more people have this than we think and the vast, vast majority of them are fairly immune to it.

Take NYC for instance, 60% or so of new cases are people who have largely stayed at home meaning they've had minimal exposure and minimal chance to be infected.

That or this thing lives a lot longer in "asymptotic" people. I don't know enough about this shit but if the virus is living in me but not causing any issues to my health why would it automatically die?

[SAUTO]

Originally Posted by petegz28

Yes but this poses the ultimate question. If all these people have been locked down for going on 8 weeks in some cases, how the **** do you still have all these supposed asymptomatic people running around?

My theory is literally 30x more people have this than we think and the vast, vast majority of them are fairly immune to it.

Take NYC for instance, 60% or so of new cases are people who have largely stayed at home meaning they've had minimal exposure and minimal chance to be infected.

That or this thing lives a lot longer in "asymptotic" people. I don't know enough about this shit but if the virus is living in me but not causing any issues to my health why would it automatically die?

MLB tested 5600+ employees across 28 or so teams and the positive rate was .7 percent.

By far the largest mass test yet they said.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

When you have 70+ people testing positive after attending a protest rally in Wisconsin and another 150+ after a superspreader attended a few clubs in Seoul I don't think I'd be spiking the football on the 45-yard-line just yet.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by petegz28

My theory

Sorry but this is ****ing hilarious

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by SAUTO

MLB tested 5600+ employees across 28 or so teams and the positive rate was .7 percent.

By far the largest mass test yet they said.

Obligatory "false negatives had to be the cause for such a low rate!"