***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Sorry but this is ****ing hilarious

Don't you have some pornos to score in your basement or something?

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Originally Posted by petegz28

Obligatory "false negatives had to be the cause for such a low rate!"

Yeah, that's not the case for a test whose issue was specificity, not sensitivity. Go sit in the corner.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

When you have 70+ people testing positive after attending a protest rally in Wisconsin and another 150+ after a superspreader attended a few clubs in Seoul I don't think I'd be spiking the football on the 45-yard-line just yet.

Define positive, please. Asymptomatic positive? Mildly positive? ****ers are almost dead positive?

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath15

My doc has told me that currently, it's a waste of time and money to get tested.

With that said, it could be because of the test he has access to, and not an overarching issue.

Yeah, I have a couple doctors I was going to ask today but never got a chance to talk to them. Judging by the posture of our health system there aren't any plans for dealing with any sudden spikes due to re-opening. In fact it appears to be quite the opposite.

[Bugeater]

Originally Posted by TLO

Anyone know how accurate the Quest Diagnostic antibody test is?

Well, I've passed every drug test I've taken there soooo....uuhhhh....let's just say I'd definitely question the accuracy.

[Kidd Lex]

Article on sunlight and Covid:

https://elemental.medium.com/how-sun...t-cd3220e9abf5

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

Yeah, that's not the case for a test whose issue was specificity, not sensitivity. Go sit in the corner.

Yes it was. Had to be. I heard it on the intrawebs. If you're negative it was a bad test. That's the word on the street.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Originally Posted by petegz28

Define positive, please. Asymptomatic positive? Mildly positive? ****ers are almost dead positive?

Positive means a positive case. If we're having a debate about a spike in cases, isn't a lot of positive cases due to contact a rather important detail when people are talking about coming in closer contact?

There are times where you can refrain from hitting "Submit Reply," you know, especially when the post adds absolutely nothing to the discussion.

You're not paid by the argument as far as I'm aware, so I have no idea why you keep bringing up these asinine ideas as though they have merit.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

Positive means a positive case. If we're having a debate about a spike in cases, isn't a lot of positive cases due to contact a rather important detail when people are talking about coming in closer contact?

There are times where you can refrain from hitting "Submit Reply," you know, especially when the post adds absolutely nothing to the discussion.

You're not paid by the argument as far as I'm aware, so I have no idea why you keep bringing up these asinine ideas as though they have merit.

And I would like to know the severity of the persons testing positive. We have what, 400 people in St. Joe that were "positive" and their symptoms were so ****ing mild they had no idea they had it. I think that's data worth having.

And you take your own advice vis-a-vis the "Submit Reply" button.

[limested]

Originally Posted by petegz28

Yeah, I have a couple doctors I was going to ask today but never got a chance to talk to them. Judging by the posture of our health system there aren't any plans for dealing with any sudden spikes due to re-opening. In fact it appears to be quite the opposite.

Why have a plan? We haven’t had one this whole time and it has had no impact on anything whatsoever.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by petegz28

Don't you have some pornos to score in your basement or something?

More proof that you're unfunny, uncreative and just a bore in general.

Kudos to you, pete!

[SAUTO]

Do people actually think that when places reopened everyone going out contracted the virus? I mean that's the only way the tests would matter at this point.


It took a while to start going down, it's the same way going up if it does

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

More proof that you're unfunny, uncreative and just a bore in general.

Kudos to you, pete!

But I'm not wrong, Dane.......

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by petegz28

But I'm not wrong, Dane.......

About what?

And we don't have basements in the hills, nor do most homes in SoCal.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by SAUTO

Do people actually think that when places reopened everyone going out contracted the virus? I mean that's the only way the tests would matter at this point.


It took a while to start going down, it's the same way going up if it does

Of course. These people were all fine until we re-opened and they went out. Instant Rona.