***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

About what?

And we don't have basements in the hills, nor do most homes in SoCal.

I am just ****ing with you already...sheesh. You music guys are so uptight

[Strongside]

Originally Posted by petegz28

Of course. These people were all fine until we re-opened and they went out. Instant Rona.

I was at a bar & grill picking up food an hour ago. Had a drink while waiting. Already feeling a tickle deep in my left lung.

[Titty Meat]

How long before places shut down again? I'll say 6 weeks.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by Titty Meat

How long before places shut down again? I'll say 6 weeks.

Probably about the same time Mo becomes a hot spot....

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by Kidd Lex

Article on sunlight and Covid:

https://elemental.medium.com/how-sun...t-cd3220e9abf5

I wondered that. Doesn't help that in a lot places its been unreasonably cold all spring long. Also seems to be lots of experts predicting a wave 2 when the weather gets colder. Hopefully that's a good sign that at least until then we can enjoy ourselves for a short while.

[FloridaMan88]

Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy

This could get interesting. Imagine the 49ers, Rams and Chargers playing home games in FL.
https://www.espn.com/espn/story/_/id...5pD0bsl55rlvX4

Camping World Stadium (formerly the Citrus Bowl) is available in Orlando and has no main home team/tenant... that would be an option to host displaced teams.

[Chief Roundup]

Originally Posted by Kidd Lex

Article on sunlight and Covid:

https://elemental.medium.com/how-sun...t-cd3220e9abf5

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

I wondered that. Doesn't help that in a lot places its been unreasonably cold all spring long. Also seems to be lots of experts predicting a wave 2 when the weather gets colder. Hopefully that's a good sign that at least until then we can enjoy ourselves for a short while.

Lot of speculation, it does make sense but speculation non the less.

[Kidd Lex]

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

I wondered that. Doesn't help that in a lot places its been unreasonably cold all spring long. Also seems to be lots of experts predicting a wave 2 when the weather gets colder. Hopefully that's a good sign that at least until then we can enjoy ourselves for a short while.

If summer can give us reprieve, be a great time to implement increased testing and contact tracing while making progress on treatments and vaccines. I’m going to stay positive with continued examination of all the science pouring out.

[Kidd Lex]

Originally Posted by Chief Roundup

Lot of speculation, it does make sense but speculation non the less.

Outside of a crystal ball everything is speculation. What’s not speculation and continues to show up in multiple studies is the prevalence of Vit D deficiency in pour Covid outcomes. Get some sun on that bum. 😎

[FloridaMan88]

Originally Posted by Titty Meat

How long before places shut down again? I'll say 6 weeks.

Wisconsin’s Supreme Court struck down their state’s stay at home order today and there will likely be similar legal challenges if other states/cities try to bring back the draconian lockdown measures.

[Monticore]

Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88

Wisconsin’s Supreme Court struck down their state’s stay at home order today and there will likely be similar legal challenges if other states/cities try to bring back the draconian lockdown measures.

I understand draconian is new word for you but you don't have to use it in every post.

here is some help.

harsh
severe
strict
extreme
drastic
stringent
tough
swingeing
cruel
brutal
oppressive
ruthless
relentless
summary
punitive
authoritarian
despotic
tyrannical
arbitrary
repressive
iron-fisted

highlighted some ones you might like.

[Titty Meat]

Originally Posted by petegz28

Probably about the same time Mo becomes a hot spot....

That's odd both KC and Jackson county were on an unreleased list as potential hot spots. It's almost like you have no idea what you're talking about.

Now if the president or whatever right meme talk show host you follow said MO was a hotspot by god you would be on here saying MO is a hotspot

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by Titty Meat

That's odd both KC and Jackson county were on an unreleased list as potential hot spots. It's almost like you have no idea what you're talking about.

Now if the president or whatever right meme talk show host you follow said MO was a hotspot by god you would be on here saying MO is a hotspot

Hey, tithead,...Mo is not and will not be a hot spot. You're going back to work. In case you missed it Mo has fallen from 22nd to 27th in total cases since you said it would be a hot spot.

[dirk digler]

Gov Cuomo is saying on CNN that now 13 states and 5 other countries are seeing cases with kids with the inflammatory disease related to Covid. Lucky we got a couple of months before school opens so we can see if they can figure something out.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by dirk digler

Gov Cuomo is saying on CNN that now 13 states and 5 other countries are seeing cases with kids with the inflammatory disease related to Covid. Lucky we got a couple of months before school opens so we can see if they can figure something out.

Yeah this is the one that is kind of strange. It doesn't appear to be effecting a ton of kids but the ones it is hitting it is really doing a number. And wtf did thi just come from? I know they say it's related to Covid but are they really sure about that or is it just a guess at this point?