***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[Chief Roundup]

Originally Posted by Titty Meat

How long before places shut down again? I'll say 6 weeks.

They won't be shut down by the government. There is no turning back.

[007]

Are we all dead yet?

[Bearcat]

Don't understand why anyone would predict things closing down again until the fall/winter... KC is at like 10-20% restaurant capacity and many have chosen not to open yet. I know of at least a few states that have complicated phases and stuff towards reopening. Florida's had summer weather for a few weeks now, so has Arizona.

Going to a restaurant with 10 other people in the building isn't much different than walking around Costco.

Not to say being careful is unwarranted, but it'll happen so gradually, I'd be surprised if anything crazy happened, beyond something like a huge indoor concert being scheduled in a city that reopened the day before.

[Titty Meat]

Originally Posted by phisherman

I would assume that KC/Jackson County are on said list because a large number of folks that tested positive at the Triumph meat packing plant reside in KC or Jackson County. That's quite a big jump in local numbers solely from that plant.

Triumph, Lanaing prison, and it's been getting pretty nasty at some retirement homes.

[Gumption]

Though you think you can get through this virus easily if you contracted it, think of the people who will get infected because of you that are at a higher risk, and the worst at that they will infect others too, this is exponential. Know that you can infect others without knowing you already have the virus or what they call asymptomatic. So everyone should just stay at home and save lives.

[TLO]

Originally Posted by Gumption

Though you think you can get through this virus easily if you contracted it, think of the people who will get infected because of you that are at a higher risk, and the worst at that they will infect others too, this is exponential. Know that you can infect others without knowing you already have the virus or what they call asymptomatic. So everyone should just stay at home and save lives.

Bleep bloop. I am Error.

[BigCatDaddy]

Originally Posted by TLO

I went for a little drive after work tonight. St. Joe appears to be about 95% back to normal. Packed parking lots and shitty traffic. The construction they're doing on the Belt doesn't help with the traffic issue much.

That's what I'm seeing also. If it wasn't for some people wearing mask nothing would seem out of the ordinary.

[staylor26]

Originally Posted by Bearcat

Don't understand why anyone would predict things closing down again until the fall/winter... KC is at like 10-20% restaurant capacity and many have chosen not to open yet. I know of at least a few states that have complicated phases and stuff towards reopening. Florida's had summer weather for a few weeks now, so has Arizona.

Going to a restaurant with 10 other people in the building isn't much different than walking around Costco.

Not to say being careful is unwarranted, but it'll happen so gradually, I'd be surprised if anything crazy happened, beyond something like a huge indoor concert being scheduled in a city that reopened the day before.

But if you aren’t predicting worst case scenarios you’re not doing this right!

[dirk digler]

And now Children’s Mercy has a child with inflammatory disease

https://twitter.com/41actionnews/sta...890106881?s=21

Oh this isn’t the first they have treated. They have done a few now

[wazu]

Originally Posted by Gumption

Though you think you can get through this virus easily if you contracted it, think of the people who will get infected because of you that are at a higher risk, and the worst at that they will infect others too, this is exponential. Know that you can infect others without knowing you already have the virus or what they call asymptomatic. So everyone should just stay at home and save lives.

What do you do for a living that allows you to stay home indefinitely?

[Demonpenz]

Kids aren't going back to school in the fall

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by dirk digler

And now Children’s Mercy has a child with inflammatory disease

https://twitter.com/41actionnews/sta...890106881?s=21

Oh this isn’t the first they have treated. They have done a few now

That's sad. But here is my problem with the media...

Headline: Kansas City doctors treat 'uncommon' child illness linked to COVID-19

First paragraph: KANSAS CITY, Mo. — Doctors at Children's Mercy Hospital in Kansas City are treating a patient diagnosed with a rare inflammatory syndrome, possibly connected to the coronavirus.

Few paragraphs later: Doctors believe the illness might be connected to COVID-19 because many of the children who have become sick have either tested positive for the coronavirus or have had positive antibody tests, suggesting they might have been infected earlier.



The headline is linked but everywhere in the story says possibly or might.

[Titty Meat]

Originally Posted by dirk digler

And now Children’s Mercy has a child with inflammatory disease

https://twitter.com/41actionnews/sta...890106881?s=21

Oh this isn’t the first they have treated. They have done a few now

Just curious timing for KC to reopen given everything going on. Could have delayed it 2 more weeks and see how it plays out what's the harm? Even Dr Archer said May 15th wasnt a good time.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by Gumption

Though you think you can get through this virus easily if you contracted it, think of the people who will get infected because of you that are at a higher risk, and the worst at that they will infect others too, this is exponential. Know that you can infect others without knowing you already have the virus or what they call asymptomatic. So everyone should just stay at home and save lives.

How many times have you been out in all of this???

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by Titty Meat

Just curious timing for KC to reopen given everything going on. Could have delayed it 2 more weeks and see how it plays out what's the harm? Even Dr Archer said May 15th wasnt a good time.

we re-opened partially 2 days ago and you are blaming that on this???

JFC just