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Old 04-23-2020, 10:09 PM  
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Old 10-04-2021, 10:41 AM   #3076
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Clyde has 0 rushing TDs in 4 games.

Don't care what you say, his burst ain't good enough.

Damien was scoring gobs of TDs in the postseason with this team.
He's had 4 red-zone carries and averaged 6.3 YPC.

He's had 7 carries in short yardage situations (1-3 Yards to gain) and averaged 5.3 YPC.

The problem is that he's had 58 rush attempts and 43 of them have been on 1st or 2nd and 10. When we shouldn't be running the damn ball anyway. And that's where he's been pretty mediocre.

He's been fine in short yardage situations. Hell, he's actually been pretty good at it.

You're seeing what you want to see here.
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Old 10-04-2021, 10:41 AM   #3077
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Williams has vultured a couple TDs from CEH.
CEH doesn't have the power to get in there.
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You're seeing what you want to see here.
I see a guy who can't scoring rushing TDs.

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Clyde has 0 rushing TDs in 4 games.

Don't care what you say, his burst ain't good enough.

Damien was scoring gobs of TDs in the postseason with this team.
Williams burst is noticeably worse than Clyde, but he has rushing TDs. I fully understand you don't care what anyone says, but it's meaningful information.
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For comparison: Darrel Williams:

4 red zone carries for 1.5 YPC.
9 carries in short yardage (1-3 yd) situations at 3 YPC.

The Chiefs are splitting the short yardage carries pretty much down the middle but it does look like Williams is getting the real easy cracks. His 3 YPC has still been good for 8 1d in 9 attempts. That sure as hell looks like a team that's using him as a power back.

And Williams has taken 14 carries from under center vs. only 7 in shotgun. Clyde has 28 carries from shotgun vs. 30 from under center.

They're using Williams a bruiser back, which is probably smart as he's just a bigger RB and if you're going to look to take some hits off Clyde, that's the time to do it.

To this point its largely been a usage thing. CEH has been good in short yardage spots and very effective in the red zone.
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I've been one of CEH's harshest critics since he came back from his injury. His game yesterday was what I've been waiting to see. Anyone who finds fault with his performance yesterday is just nit picking. If he continues to play like that we'll be in good shape going forward.
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My only complaint on Clyde yesterday was a few times he went looking for contact when he could have just tried to make a guy miss and saved the wear and tear a little.

And as far as screens go, i think the jet sweeps have effectively replaced a portion of the screen game andy used to run.

Edit: I've said it before and ill say it again. I think people are remembering Damien Williams in a light that just isnt accurate. He was speed and a home run hitter and that was pretty much it. I think the Clyde pick was a partial over correction looking for a consistent 4-5 yards instead of several 1 to negative 1 yard runs hoping for a 50 yarder.
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Pardon me if this has already been posted.

CEH is averaging 14.5 carries a game for 72.8 yards -- for 5.0 ypc.

He only has 7 receptions on the season, however, at 7.1 ypr. That seems less than ideal.
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I've been one of CEH's harshest critics since he came back from his injury. His game yesterday was what I've been waiting to see. Anyone who finds fault with his performance yesterday is just nit picking. If he continues to play like that we'll be in good shape going forward.

That's not how it works on CP. If you take a stance, you do not relinquish any ground, and you NEVER say your were wrong.


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With that said, he's trending in the right direction. At least he's not actively hurting the team anymore.
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Williams burst is noticeably worse than Clyde, but he has rushing TDs. I fully understand you don't care what anyone says, but it's meaningful information.
Because he has power.

CEH isn't a power back.

DW is their best option inside the 5.
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Because he has power.

CEH isn't a power back.

DW is their best option inside the 5.
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I'll stick to deferring to Andy Reid's opinion on who our best power back is.

DW continues to get those carries for a reason.
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