***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[stumppy]

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

Yeah, it can be rough. About 15-20 percent of people feel bad for a few days, but Shingrix is much more effective than Zostavax was.

Hell, even the name sounds like something painful.

[sedated]

Originally Posted by DaFace

For me, masks are like condoms. You want to have sex with someone? OK, fine. We won't prevent you from doing it, but at least wear a condom. It's not as comfortable. It's not as pleasurable. But it protects her a ton and you some. It's part of the bargain.

I can kind of see that, but the consequences of unprotected sex are limited to those directly involved in the decision whether or not to engage in that act.

[Monticore]

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

Phase I is human, so I was mistaken. I'd only heard about the rhesus macaques.

I heard somebody else was in Phase I but I might be mistaken .

[lewdog]

Looking at antibody testing at work.

Still doesn’t look like this proves anything like immunity though? Kind of pointless?

[Demonpenz]

The ****? Ever been to wal mart? Ever paid for someone else's food stamps? Poor people not wear condoms have an effect on lots of people

[Monticore]

Originally Posted by petegz28

Dude what facts was I ignoring? You started talking about vaccines and I pointed out we don't have one and the group of people that discussed this didn't speak as if we had one. If we get one, great. Until then it's all talk.

You said everybody would get covid no matter what we do so why bother, like we will all get the flu.

I said not everybody has gotten the flu.

the you came at me with a gotcha! well if everybody doesn't get the flu why are you worried about the contagiousness of covid.

I said because we have a vaccine that protects people from the flu.

then you said we can't just wait for a vaccine we might never have one.

So I corrected you on one of your arguments then you moved the goalposts to a different one and then did it again.

I'm paraphrasing , but even just writing this out got me frustrated again.

P.S. I still love ya Pete

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by lewdog

Looking at antibody testing at work.

Still doesn’t look like this proves anything like immunity though? Kind of pointless?

[Strongside]

Well, this is certainly interesting.

Fox News covered this a bit ago, and had a rep from Sorrento on air, basically saying they've found a cure in preclinical trials. They sound pretty confident. I'm still skeptical, though.

That said, I bought stock at $3 this morning based on news this guy was going on-air. It's now at $8 a share. It's all over Twitter and investment news, but it's interesting that this isn't being more widely talked about.

Don’t look now but $SRNE is saying they have a CURE for Covid. Not a vaccine. A cure.

"We want to emphasize there is a cure. There is a solution that works 100 percent," Dr. Henry Ji, founder and CEO of Sorrento Therapeutics, told Fox News https://t.co/D4UX3GCtH1

— Quoth the Raven (@QTRResearch) May 15, 2020

"A treatment could be available months before a vaccine hits the market."

[BleedingRed]

Originally Posted by Strongside

Well, this is certainly interesting.

Fox News covered this a bit ago, and had a rep from Sorrento on air, basically saying they've found a cure in preclinical trials. They sound pretty confident. I'm still skeptical, though.

That said, I bought stock at $3 this morning based on news this guy was going on-air. It's now at $8 a share. It's all over Twitter and investment news, but it's interesting that this isn't being more widely talked about.

Don’t look now but $SRNE is saying they have a CURE for Covid. Not a vaccine. A cure.

"We want to emphasize there is a cure. There is a solution that works 100 percent," Dr. Henry Ji, founder and CEO of Sorrento Therapeutics, told Fox News https://t.co/D4UX3GCtH1

— Quoth the Raven (@QTRResearch) May 15, 2020

"A treatment could be available months before a vaccine hits the market."

https://www.foxnews.com/science/covi...y-breakthrough

news just broke

I'm skeptical but this would be ****ing huge.

[Donger]

Originally Posted by Strongside

Well, this is certainly interesting.

Fox News covered this a bit ago, and had a rep from Sorrento on air, basically saying they've found a cure in preclinical trials. They sound pretty confident. I'm still skeptical, though.

That said, I bought stock at $3 this morning based on news this guy was going on-air. It's now at $8 a share. It's all over Twitter and investment news, but it's interesting that this isn't being more widely talked about.

Don’t look now but $SRNE is saying they have a CURE for Covid. Not a vaccine. A cure.

"We want to emphasize there is a cure. There is a solution that works 100 percent," Dr. Henry Ji, founder and CEO of Sorrento Therapeutics, told Fox News https://t.co/D4UX3GCtH1

— Quoth the Raven (@QTRResearch) May 15, 2020

"A treatment could be available months before a vaccine hits the market."

100%? Wow, if true.

[O.city]

It's an antibody i'd imagine without opening and reading.

[DaFace]

Originally Posted by BleedingRed

https://www.foxnews.com/science/covi...y-breakthrough

news just broke

I'm skeptical but this would be ****ing huge.

It's hard to understand how they could claim a "cure" without all the trials, but...sure...fingers crossed.

[BleedingRed]

Originally Posted by Donger

100%? Wow, if true.

Yeah I would think it would be easy to test, clearly they have seen something to make this statement.

But this might be a really interesting scientific break through.

[Monticore]

Originally Posted by Strongside

Well, this is certainly interesting.

Fox News covered this a bit ago, and had a rep from Sorrento on air, basically saying they've found a cure in preclinical trials. They sound pretty confident. I'm still skeptical, though.

That said, I bought stock at $3 this morning based on news this guy was going on-air. It's now at $8 a share. It's all over Twitter and investment news, but it's interesting that this isn't being more widely talked about.

Don’t look now but $SRNE is saying they have a CURE for Covid. Not a vaccine. A cure.

"We want to emphasize there is a cure. There is a solution that works 100 percent," Dr. Henry Ji, founder and CEO of Sorrento Therapeutics, told Fox News https://t.co/D4UX3GCtH1

— Quoth the Raven (@QTRResearch) May 15, 2020

"A treatment could be available months before a vaccine hits the market."

Some pretty bold statements in there, not ones you normally here from scientists but we will see.

[DaFace]

Originally Posted by O.city

It's an antibody i'd imagine without opening and reading.

Yep.