***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[stumppy]

Originally Posted by petegz28

Seriously? Everyone in their brother screaming we aren't testing enough then you ask someone why they would go an get tested?

You mean someone who hasn't been exposed and doesn't have any symptoms?

That's just ****ing stupid.

[Chief Roundup]

Originally Posted by stumppy

You mean someone who hasn't been exposed and doesn't have any symptoms?

That's just ****ing stupid.

Don't forget that the asymptomatic can spread it without knowing they are infected. So just because no symptoms doesn't mean that they should not be tested.
I am more interested in the testing that shows if a person has been infected in the past.
Something went through where I work in late January. Non of us tested positive for any of the, Flu, RSV, etc. Two of us have lost breathing capacity since that sickness.

[Strongside]

Originally Posted by Chief Roundup

Don't forget that the asymptomatic can spread it without knowing they are infected. So just because no symptoms doesn't mean that they should not be tested.
I am more interested in the testing that shows if a person has been infected in the past.
Something went through where I work in late January. Non of us tested positive for any of the, Flu, RSV, etc. Two of us have lost breathing capacity since that sickness.

Same thing here late January early February. Went through our office like a wildfire. Some had cough for 8 weeks. 2 developed pneumonia.

[Titty Meat]

Interesting how the last 2 flu seasons killed approx 94k Americans. As of today we have 89k covid deaths in just 2 months.

[vonBobo]

Originally Posted by Titty Meat

Went to Gates to order To Go but quickly noped my way out of there as no customers were wearing masks nor was the staff.

Good old Gates, continually proving they hate their job and their customers.

Went to the Main location 2 weeks ago, about a dozen customers mostly disregarding the small x's on the floor, 2 customers with masks hanging around their necks, no employees with masks. Somebody in the back of the line arguing over the shoulders of the customers in the front of the line about what comes with the dinner with half the staff yelling back. One of the cashiers was drenched in sweat and was spaced out, looked like she had a 103 temp and of course handling money and food.

Don't think I'm going back to Gates even after covid is over.

[jaa1025]

Originally Posted by Titty Meat

Interesting how the last 2 flu seasons killed approx 94k Americans. As of today we have 89k covid deaths in just 2 months.

The death count is being greatly overstated. Plus, they ended the flu season a month and a half early this year to add those deaths to the COVID count.

[Titty Meat]

Originally Posted by vonBobo

Good old Gates, continually proving they hate their job and their customers.

Went to the Main location 2 weeks ago, about a dozen customers mostly disregarding the small x's on the floor, 2 customers with masks hanging around their necks, no employees with masks. Somebody in the back of the line arguing over the shoulders of the customers in the front of the line about what comes with the dinner with half the staff yelling back. One of the cashiers was drenched in sweat and was spaced out, looked like she had a 103 temp and of course handling money and food.

Don't think I'm going back to Gates even after covid is over.

That's the one I went to. Masks on their shoulders would be an upgrade over what I saw today.

It's amazing I'd say about 50% of the people I see in KC wear masks. You go to JOCO its probably about 70%. I'm going to chalk it up to education.

[SAUTO]

Originally Posted by TLO

There's a variation of people wearing masks here in the Midwest.

This might sound really bad, but I'm going to say it anyway.

From my own observation, the higher class areas of town are a lot more likely to be wearing masks than the lower class areas.

I drove from mid Missouri to Milwaukee Wisconsin and back.

Saw one person wearing a mask and gloves in a gas station the whole way.

No joke. Everyone else looked like nothing was going on.

[displacedinMN]

Originally Posted by TLO

There's a variation of people wearing masks here in the Midwest.

This might sound really bad, but I'm going to say it anyway.

From my own observation, the higher class areas of town are a lot more likely to be wearing masks than the lower class areas.

I believe it.

[Marcellus]

Originally Posted by TLO

I think it would wreck my anxiety for the 72 hours they say I'd be waiting for results.

But I wouldn't mind knowing I guess.

You do realize nothing will change in the time you are waiting for the test if you are positive or not right? If you aren't sick dont worry about any of it.

And the test would only tell you you dont have it today.

[Marcellus]

Originally Posted by SAUTO

I drove from mid Missouri to Milwaukee Wisconsin and back.

Saw one person wearing a mask and gloves in a gas station the whole way.

No joke. Everyone else looked like nothing was going on.

The vast majority of people I have seen wearing masks working in different places or out and about aren't wearing them correctly anyway.

[Marcellus]

Thats a huge difference. Makes you wonder.

Colorado health officials on Friday changed how they count the number of people lost to the coronavirus outbreak in the state.

As a result, the state's stated COVID-19 death toll dropped by nearly 300 people who had contracted the virus but died of other causes that may or may not have been related to infection.

On Thursday, Colorado reported 1,091 coronavirus deaths under its prior method. But on Friday, the state clarified that 878 people have died as a direct result of COVID-19 infection as of May 9, while another 272 had tested positive but died of other causes as of Friday.

In a Friday afternoon news conference, Rachel Herlihy, the state epidemiologist, apologized for confusion about how coronavirus deaths are counted. She said the state would begin reporting the number of deaths where COVID-19 is believed to be a contributing factor, in addition to total coronavirus case deaths, the larger number.

https://www.coloradoan.com/story/new...ed/5198485002/

[Chief Roundup]

Originally Posted by SAUTO

I drove from mid Missouri to Milwaukee Wisconsin and back.



Saw one person wearing a mask and gloves in a gas station the whole way.



No joke. Everyone else looked like nothing was going on.

You left your home state during a lock down? Serious question.

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[tyecopeland]

Originally Posted by Titty Meat

Interesting how the last 2 flu seasons killed approx 94k Americans. As of today we have 89k covid deaths in just 2 months.

Interesting that there is a flu shot that many of the most susceptible people get that drives flu numbers down.

[PAChiefsGuy]

Fauci: Real coronavirus death toll 'almost certainly' higher than official 80,000 count

https://thehill.com/homenews/coronav...ly-higher-than