***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[tyecopeland]

Originally Posted by Monticore

It does yet half the country still doesn’t get it , and flu death totals are estimated as well , covid and flu deaths are not counted the same way which is another reason we should not be comparing the two at any level right now .

Unless we are comparing to show how many more cases there are like titty meat was doing?

It seems like I see a lot of comparison about how many covid cases compared to flu cases to show how bad covid is. But as soon as someone points something out to knock that down a little, all of a sudden we cant compare them anymore.

[Bwana]

Originally Posted by Chief Roundup

Down here in Arkansas part of that order included a travel ban. If you left the state you were suppose to notify the state department of health. If you did not then you got fined. Air travel was done automatically. My aunt and her boyfriend went on a ride to Missouri. They stopped a restaurant in West Plains came back through Gainesville and visited our cousin. She posted about that trip on Facebook. The Sheriff is on her Facebook. She got a $500 fine for leaving the state for recreation. It was not deemed a trip of necessity.

I mean, talk about begging to give away $500.

[RunKC]

Bring on the Llamas!

https://www.vpr.org/post/llama-antib...rnews#stream/0

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by PAChiefsGuy

Georgia seems to be doing fine but Texas and Florida are both seeing some increases in cases. No hospitals being overrun though.

We just have to be careful. You don't want to open things up too rapidly and see this heinous virus start spreading again.

Agreed. We went to dinner last night at one of our favorite places. There was bar seating available, In sets of 2 seats spread 6ft apart so this bar would have sat 10 people. Booths were every other booth and the tables were the same. We sat at a table close to the bar which my Son loved. Waiters all had gloves on and they were the cheapest kind of gloves cause they were constantly throwing them away.

Having said that the place was pretty busy given the new rules.

[Bowser]

Originally Posted by RunKC

Bring on the Llamas!

https://www.vpr.org/post/llama-antib...rnews#stream/0

[petegz28]

Well, going into the re-opening my take is this.

1. This is a contagious virus. Much more than the flu.

2. 95%+ of people who get it will be fine.

3. If you are a high-risk person you have need for extra concern and should be very careful.

4. It seems that for every one person who gets this that has symptoms 30 people get it and don't so the odds are even if you do get it, you won't know it which is both good and bad.

5. I think the masks and social distancing are good but not as effective as some thing and more effective than others think. If you know or think you have it, wear a ****ing mask so you don't spread it.

6. Be ****ing smart. It shouldn't take a pandemic to get you to stay home if you're sick, especially if you have a fever, wash your hands, stay away from people you know who are sick and HELLO! DON'T COUGH ON PEOPLE, BITCH!

7. Gloves are a waste of ****ing time for the most part

Otherwise, life happens you go on with it until you don't. No different than any other day when you get down to the brass tacks of it all.

[POND_OF_RED]

I finally ordered a few neck gaiters to cover my nose and mouth with instead of those shitty N95 masks my work gave me(and didn’t fit me for) Seems like they will be much more comfortable for the long days ahead in some of these places making it mandatory. If anyone else hates the masks I’d recommend at least getting some of these. They’re much more comfortable and breathable. I’m sure some over the top neurotic journalist will write an article soon about how they aren’t safe enough since I’ve seen a lot of people switching to them over the masks now

[Demonpenz]

I wear a mask and just dip my body in vics and carry pills everywhere

[eDave]

Originally Posted by Donger

Wisconsin has actually shown new case growth over the last few days.

Texas has seen a steady rise in novel coronavirus cases and fatalities since reopening just over two weeks ago.

https://abcnews.go.com/US/texas-case...ry?id=70720497

[Bowser]

Originally Posted by eDave

Texas has seen a steady rise in novel coronavirus cases and fatalities since reopening just over two weeks ago.

https://abcnews.go.com/US/texas-case...ry?id=70720497

Wonder how many more tests have been done in those two weeks as compared to before?

[POND_OF_RED]

Originally Posted by eDave

Texas has seen a steady rise in novel coronavirus cases and fatalities since reopening just over two weeks ago.

https://abcnews.go.com/US/texas-case...ry?id=70720497

That’s crazy. A state that large had the highest and second highest death totals around 50? Seems like they’re definitely doing something right down there! Took one city just a day to pass there complete totals

[eDave]

Originally Posted by Bowser

Wonder how many more tests have been done in those two weeks as compared to before?

The answer lies within.

[Bowser]

Originally Posted by eDave

The answer lies within.

Amazing what happens with the numbers when you double the tests in the span of two weeks, huh?

And I take that as a positive, really. Especially in a state like Texas.

[ghak99]

Originally Posted by Chief Roundup

Down here in Arkansas part of that order included a travel ban. If you left the state you were suppose to notify the state department of health. If you did not then you got fined. Air travel was done automatically. My aunt and her boyfriend went on a ride to Missouri. They stopped a restaurant in West Plains came back through Gainesville and visited our cousin. She posted about that trip on Facebook. The Sheriff is on her Facebook. She got a $500 fine for leaving the state for recreation. It was not deemed a trip of necessity.

Did Arkansas actually pass a law?

Did anyone break the "rule" and then lawyer up and challenge the fine?

[Chief Roundup]

Originally Posted by ghak99

Did Arkansas actually pass a law?

Did anyone break the "rule" and then lawyer up and challenge the fine?

It is regulations by the Governor.