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ShowtimeSBMVP · 08:33 AM

Police: Man who died at Arrowhead was in a vehicle similar to one he arrived in
December 3
BY CHRISTINE VENDEL
The Kansas City Star

A Smithville man who was found in someone else’s Jeep and then died in a struggle outside Arrowhead Stadium Sunday had gone to the game in a similar vehicle that was parked nearby, police said Tuesday.

The Jeep also showed no signs of a break-in, leading police to believe it may have been left unlocked when Kyle Van Winkle, 30, climbed in and sat down.

Police released the additional details Tuesday as they continued to investigate what led to the death of Van Winkle, who had attended the Chiefs game against the Denver Broncos with relatives.

Detectives planned to interview relatives Tuesday to determine when they last saw him inside the stadium.

Police were called to Lot A of the Truman Sports Complex about 5:20 p.m. Sunday on a disturbance. Witnesses told police the Jeep owner had returned to his vehicle with his son, who is about 10 years old, when they realized a stranger was inside. The boy summoned help from several tail-gaters and they engaged in a struggle with Van Winkle, who had been sitting in the Jeep. Van Winkle collapsed and later died at a hospital.

Police did not say how Van Winkle died, but they said his body bore no signs of obvious injury.

Officers arrested three men shortly after the death, but they had to track down the fourth man who was arrested. Police searched one man’s home in Independence on Monday.

Detectives released three of the men Monday night and the fourth man Tuesday morning, pending further investigation.

Read more here: http://www.kansascity.com/2013/12/03...#storylink=cpy

KCUnited · 12-02-2013, 06:52 AM

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Originally Posted by jspchief

Every new report seems to change the story...

Now we're back where we started.

Yeah, it was a reporter still in the parking lot that said "severely beaten" and not someone official. They did show the Jeep and it has some hunting type stickers on it, probably killed him with a poisonous blow dart or something.

KCUnited · 12-02-2013, 07:00 AM

Meanwhile, an off duty KC police officer shot and killed a KC fireman who was celebrating his wedding reception at Power & Light over the weekend. Killa City.

Eleazar · 12-02-2013, 07:08 AM

"Uh... I just got in here by mistake... "

**mikeyis4dcats.** · 12-02-2013, 09:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Raiderhader

I realize the police have not released all of the details but, based on what they have released I have a problem with this thing being treated as a homicide. The guy was found in a vehicle that did not belong to him. There were no major wounds found on the body. There was no blood. And yet you automatically assume homicide? No blood but, it was probably a homicide. If there is not a lot more that isn't being released then that seems rather jacked up to me.

any death caused (or potentially caused) by another is going to be treated as a homicide until otherwise indicated. they have that obligation to the victim. And even if found justifiable, it is STILL a homicide.

Simply Red · 12-02-2013, 09:39 AM

KC don't play no shit!

Eleazar · 12-02-2013, 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by mikeyis4dcats.

any death caused (or potentially caused) by another is going to be treated as a homicide until otherwise indicated. they have that obligation to the victim. And even if found justifiable, it is STILL a homicide.

Homicide just means the killing of a person, not whether it was criminal, justified, not justified, self defense, accidental, negligent, etc.

**mikeyis4dcats.** · 12-02-2013, 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Cochise

Homicide just means the killing of a person, not whether it was criminal, justified, not justified, self defense, accidental, negligent, etc.

yes, that was my point. Unless they find evidence that it was suicide or natural causes they will treat every death as a homicide.

Raiderhater · 12-02-2013, 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Cochise

Homicide just means the killing of a person, not whether it was criminal, justified, not justified, self defense, accidental, negligent, etc.

Yet there is zero evidence (that is being shared any way) to suggest he was killed. The coroner's initial report was a big question mark (which calls into question in my mind the reporter saying the guy was severely beaten). It could have been a drug issue or a heart condition. On the surface there is no evidence to suggest foul play.

**TimBone** · 12-02-2013, 10:14 AM

Disregard.

jspchief · 12-02-2013, 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Raiderhader

Yet there is zero evidence (that is being shared any way) to suggest he was killed. The coroner's initial report was a big question mark (which calls into question in my mind the reporter saying the guy was severely beaten). It could have been a drug issue or a heart condition. On the surface there is no evidence to suggest foul play.

One reporter said he was beaten.

12-02-2013, 10:31 AM

Aren't they now saying again it was the owner of the vehicle who has died now? There is so much confusion on this story. I wish they'd just get it right.

Al Bundy · 12-02-2013, 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by KCUnited

Meanwhile, an off duty KC police officer shot and killed a KC fireman who was celebrating his wedding reception at Power & Light over the weekend. Killa City.

Yep, the fireman got into a fight, the off duty police officer tried to break it up, was attacked by the fireman and shot him in self defense.

KCUnited · 12-02-2013, 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Al Bundy

Yep, the fireman got into a fight, the off duty police officer tried to break it up, was attacked by the fireman and shot him in self defense.

Yeah, I heard the police officer was hospitalized with fractures to his face.

**ptlyon** · 12-02-2013, 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Phobia

Aren't they now saying again it was the owner of the vehicle who has died now? There is so much confusion on this story. I wish they'd just get it right.

I'm still hoping for Peyton Manning

Raiderhater · 12-02-2013, 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by jspchief

One reporter said he was beaten.

I addressed that in that very post.

12-01-2013, 07:18 PM
ShowtimeSBMVP Chiefs Join Date: Feb 2009 Casino cash: $3386009	810 Just said someone got murderd outside Arrowhead Police: Man who died at Arrowhead was in a vehicle similar to one he arrived in December 3 BY CHRISTINE VENDEL The Kansas City Star A Smithville man who was found in someone else’s Jeep and then died in a struggle outside Arrowhead Stadium Sunday had gone to the game in a similar vehicle that was parked nearby, police said Tuesday. The Jeep also showed no signs of a break-in, leading police to believe it may have been left unlocked when Kyle Van Winkle, 30, climbed in and sat down. Police released the additional details Tuesday as they continued to investigate what led to the death of Van Winkle, who had attended the Chiefs game against the Denver Broncos with relatives. Detectives planned to interview relatives Tuesday to determine when they last saw him inside the stadium. Police were called to Lot A of the Truman Sports Complex about 5:20 p.m. Sunday on a disturbance. Witnesses told police the Jeep owner had returned to his vehicle with his son, who is about 10 years old, when they realized a stranger was inside. The boy summoned help from several tail-gaters and they engaged in a struggle with Van Winkle, who had been sitting in the Jeep. Van Winkle collapsed and later died at a hospital. Police did not say how Van Winkle died, but they said his body bore no signs of obvious injury. Officers arrested three men shortly after the death, but they had to track down the fourth man who was arrested. Police searched one man’s home in Independence on Monday. Detectives released three of the men Monday night and the fourth man Tuesday morning, pending further investigation. Read more here: http://www.kansascity.com/2013/12/03...#storylink=cpy Last edited by Gonzo; 07-14-2016 at 08:33 AM.. Reason: Couldn't stand it anymore.
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