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Old 02-15-2024, 08:06 PM   #1
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Guys. It’s training camp. An entire offseason.

I’m not saying he’s destined for greatness, but if he reduces his boneheadedness by 40%, Toney can be an asset to us at a cheap price.

Remember the glove adjust catch against San Francisco? You don’t want to give the guy a chance to prove he can do that again?

Look if the team determines he’s a lost cause by the end of the offseason they’ll get rid of him. Until then, there have been stranger stories in the NFL of dudes who figured their shit out when they appeared to be too stupid and immature to have any kind of career
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Old 02-15-2024, 11:11 AM   #2
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In reality he may be brought back as just the return guy.
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Old 02-15-2024, 11:28 AM   #3
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In reality he may be brought back as just the return guy.
Because we owe him +$2MM no matter what (unless traded), I'd happily bring him back as WR7 and Punt Return specialist. I just don't want him anywhere near our O as an actual regular rotational WR.
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Old 02-15-2024, 11:30 AM   #4
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Because we owe him +$2MM no matter what (unless traded), I'd happily bring him back as WR7 and Punt Return specialist. I just don't want him anywhere near our O as an actual regular rotational WR.
If he's nothing more than return man that runs a few gadget plays, he has value there.
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Old 02-15-2024, 11:23 AM   #5
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I definitely want Toney back. Hopefully we can find use for him.
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Old 02-15-2024, 11:36 AM   #6
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Would rather have Hardman than Toney. Hardman makes some bone headed plays at times but he's gonna be cheap as hell, he's still young, can clearly play that role and has only been an injury concern a couple of times which were legit reasons.

Toney is always hurt. Dude has a hammy ever 2 weeks
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Old 02-15-2024, 11:38 AM   #7
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Would rather have Hardman than Toney. Hardman makes some bone headed plays at times but he's gonna be cheap as hell, he's still young, can clearly play that role and has only been an injury concern a couple of times which were legit reasons.

Toney is always hurt. Dude has a hammy ever 2 weeks
Yea but to do that, you're paying double cause Hardman is a FA and Toney is not.
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Old 02-15-2024, 11:37 AM   #8
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I do not want Toney back at all. He's is a loose canon gadget guy who loses entire ballgames for you sometimes.
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Old 02-15-2024, 11:43 AM   #9
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I do not want Toney back at all. He's is a loose canon gadget guy who loses entire ballgames for you sometimes.
Hardman had a crazy injury too. He might get another step back after a full regular offseason.
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Old 02-15-2024, 11:40 AM   #10
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The Giants might want to own his rights for a 2028 7th
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Deal.how do we make this happen
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Old 02-15-2024, 11:45 AM   #12
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Old 02-15-2024, 11:48 AM   #13
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Unless they want to give him one more shot with a full TC and see what he can do, I guess. He would be a pretty decent H-Back and Reid does love his gimmicks from time to time.
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Unless they want to give him one more shot with a full TC and see what he can do, I guess. He would be a pretty decent H-Back and Reid does love his gimmicks from time to time.
Not a bad idea. See if he can make something pop working more out of the backfield.

His drops will be less likely to lead to INTs if he’s working in the flats or 1-on-1 with LBs.
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Unless they want to give him one more shot with a full TC and see what he can do, I guess. He would be a pretty decent H-Back and Reid does love his gimmicks from time to time.

I think that missing training camp is what sunk Toneys entire season.

It seemed like he waited until camp to have some basic cleanup surgery (someone can fill in what it was and when it went down)

that minor surgery allowed him to sit most of if not all of camp.

You can't take the elevator to the top, you gotta take the stairs. Skipping training camp really hurt the chemistry and overall readiness and it was on full display the first game vs the lions where Toney had more drops than I can ever remember a player having.

After that he was behind the 8 ball all season. Lining up offsides and hella drops. I think a full training camp fixes that but that is also up to the player. If he comes back and grinds, puts in teh work, full training camp and works on getting better at his craft more than he works on music videos and other hobbies he might end up being a huge asset.

taking short cuts to the top won't work, gotta take the stairs and grind
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