Chiefs listing McCluster as a WR

[|Zach|]

Originally Posted by lostcause

The hypocrisy is stunning. For weeks the threads have been blowing up on this board about how the 'True Fan' wants an OT when we 'need' playmakers - so thus Berry needs to be the pick and to hell with the idiot True Fan. Now, we spend our 2nd rounders on playmakers, improving the offense and return game, instead of fat slobs in the middle of the line and apparently we've taken a left turn to draft hell. We added a NT in free agency - he ain't pretty or special, but you don't have to have a pretty NT to be effective. This team is better at blocking/recieving/returning and coverage then it was at 5:00 pm on thursday. And All of these rookies have the potential to contribute.

[Mr. Flopnuts]

Originally Posted by |Zach|

That's hilarious.

[Mecca]

We took inferior prospects to what was available at the positions on top of taking positions that really aren't that valuable.

Am I really suppose to believe that a WR/RB project dude and a nickel CB that does kick returns is move valuable than a NT a pass rusher or a potential franchise QB?

[lostcause]

Originally Posted by Mecca

We took inferior prospects to what was available at the positions on top of taking positions that really aren't that valuable.

Am I really suppose to believe that a WR/RB project dude and a nickel CB that does kick returns is move valuable than a NT a pass rusher or a potential franchise QB?

I'm sure that if Weiss felt that Tate was a better offensive weapon than McCluster - we would have probably gone that route. I would have been curious to see Benn with an Arrowhead, but we did pick up a guy that looks very dangerous in a lot of ways. As I said, they addressed NT in free-agency and thus had the 'luxury' to grab the premier returner in the draft. As for franchise QB, why not ride Cassell one more year and hit up the real QB draft next year for that guy instead of taking a pass on Weiss's guy - who obviously didn't make the grade.

[HotRoute]

If he is going to be a WR what number do we suppose he will wear

[Mecca]

Randy Moss has made Welkers career, why is this not grasped? Without Moss teams would just sit on Welker and wait to jump those routes.

[lostcause]

Originally Posted by Mecca

Randy Moss has made Welkers career, why is this not grasped? Without Moss teams would just sit on Welker and wait to jump those routes.

That is simply not true. Moss helped Welker, but Wes was proving to be a dangerous wide receiver in Miami before he was traded to the Pats.

[Reaper16]

Originally Posted by keg in kc

It took Welker a few years to become Welker. I think it's safe to assume that McCluster or anybody else drafted yesterday isn't going to be him out of the gates, either. So they probably have some time to find that deep threat. Assuming that's not Chambers' role.

So... this sounds like you think McCluster is something of a project.

Originally Posted by lostcause

That is simply not true. Moss helped Welker, but Wes was proving to be a dangerous wide receiver in Miami before he was traded to the Pats.

Mecca didn't say that he wasn't a good player. He's saying that Welker is so prolific in NE because of Moss as a deep threat.

[lostcause]

Originally Posted by Reaper16

So... this sounds like you think McCluster is something of a project.


Mecca didn't say that he wasn't a good player. He's saying that Welker is so prolific in NE because of Moss as a deep threat.

Fine. Would Welker be putting up 110 catches a season in Miami. No. Would he be putting up 80-90. Yes. For god's sake, the Pats traded a 2nd and a 7th for him. In today's prices, I could buy Brandon Marshall and Anquan Boldin for that kind of a deal. The kid can flat out play and Moss maybe adds 15-20 catches a season for him.

[ChiefsCountry]

Originally Posted by lostcause

Fine. Would Welker be putting up 110 catches a season in Miami. No. Would he be putting up 80-90. Yes. For god's sake, the Pats traded a 2nd and a 7th for him. In today's prices, I could buy Brandon Marshall and Anquan Boldin for that kind of a deal. The kid can flat out play and Moss maybe adds 15-20 catches a season for him.

Welker's best season in Miami was 67 catches, I doubt he would put up 80 or 90.

[keg in kc]

Originally Posted by Reaper16

So... this sounds like you think McCluster is something of a project.

I think the best way to verbalize what I believe is to say that I think every wide receiver is a project, with the exception of the very rare ones that go in the stratosphere of the top 5. Which is why I said McCluster or any other receiver drafted yesterday....

I actually think that position may be one of if not the most difficult to make the transtion from college to pro. I think it's a lot more likely to see a player really blossom in his 3rd or 4th year than see one start out really hot as a rookie.

That's part of the reason I said this is a big year for Bowe a few pages back. If he doesn't break out this year, odds are he never will.

So me saying I don't expect McCluster to be Welker right out the gates is not saying I think he's a project. I don't think anybody would be Welker right out the gates...

[Mecca]

So McCluster will be good the day we get a deep threat like Randy Moss, ok so when McCluster is 57 years old.

[Reaper16]

Originally Posted by Mecca

So McCluster will be good the day we get a deep threat like Randy Moss, ok so when McCluster is 57 years old.

Potentially in next year's draft, to be fair.

[Mecca]

Originally Posted by Reaper16

Potentially in next year's draft, to be fair.

And you trust this team to make a proper pick...just sayin.

[ChiefsCountry]

Originally Posted by Reaper16

Potentially in next year's draft, to be fair.

We still won't have a QB though.