Chiefs 2013 QB Class - Page 21

O.city · 12-11-2012, 10:06 AM

This was posted in another thread by Milkman, but it got overlooked so I'm making a thread out of it.

I know, another QB thread. But this needs to be put out there for some of the "posters" here to see and think about.

The top three in this years class are in no particular order:

Geno Smith
Tyler Wilson
Matt Barkley

Thats not counting Bray, Glennon, Nassib, etc. Who are all talented in their own right.

So, many posters here want to say, "no not this year, this class is awful don't take one, there isn't a Luck or RGIII in the bunch", which isn't necessarily false.

No there isn't a once in a decade guy. Which is probably what Luck was. Hell even more there have been 2 guys of his stature come out in the last 20 or so years. Luck and Manning.

Yet there are franchise QB's all over the league. How is that so you may ask?

Lets take a look at the last 5 QB classes top 3 guys to come out and get drafted, taking out 2012's class.

2007
Jamarcus Russel
Brady Quinn
Kevin Kolb

2008
Matt Ryan
Joe Flacco
Brian Brohm

2009
Matt Stafford
Mark Sanchez
Josh Freeman

2010
Sam Bradford
Tim Tebow
Jimmy Clausen

2011
Cam Newton
Blaine Gabbert
Jake Locker

Look at those classes and no, you have to evaluate them at the time they were picked, not what they are now, we don't know what this years class will be in the NFL.

I'd argue that this years class is more loaded than any of those classes at the top and from top to bottom.

So, you wanna argue that this isn't a year to take a QB? I'll argue that its a great year to take a QB.

L.A. Chieffan · 12-11-2012, 10:43 PM

I've been watching a lot of tape on all the qbs coming out and I haven't been all that impressed. Maybe Barkley if I had to pick one but I think we should probably go defense. QB this year is just way too risky, especially with the first pick.

Nightfyre · 12-11-2012, 10:43 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city

I don't really care about the numbers Geno has put up, impressive as they are.

It's the upside that I like so much.

And the fact that he's a football junkie.

I agree completely.

ROYC75 · 12-11-2012, 10:45 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

There aren't any CBs worth a top 3 pick in this draft.

I'm not sure there is value at CB under the 15th pick, is there ?

IMHO, not an exceptional year for CB's.

Mr_Tomahawk · 12-11-2012, 10:46 PM

T-Dub going up against a pretty good defense too...

http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/footbal...erence=I-A_all

L.A. Chieffan · 12-11-2012, 10:46 PM

Geno Smith doesn't have real good mobility and can get confused by good defenses. His ceiling is basically Vince Young.

**RealSNR** · 12-11-2012, 10:46 PM

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Originally Posted by kcbubb

I do know that this draft has depth at the QB position. I don't believe that their is elite level talent at the top. I don't necessarily think we should overdraft for need in a position group that has depth.

How do you account for the complete ****ing garbage at the other positions besides QB then? I wouldn't want to draft any of those pukes at #1 overall if I already had a franchise QB on my team.

L.A. Chieffan · 12-11-2012, 10:47 PM

Tyler Wilson is a backup.

Sorter · 12-11-2012, 10:47 PM

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Originally Posted by L.A. Chieffan

Geno Smith doesn't have real good mobility and can get confused by good defenses. His ceiling is basically Vince Young.

I missed your trolling. It had been quite some time since you've tried getting everyone riled up.

O.city · 12-11-2012, 10:48 PM

I'm fine with Wilson or Smith Mr T.

**RealSNR** · 12-11-2012, 10:49 PM

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Originally Posted by L.A. Chieffan

Geno Smith doesn't have real good mobility and can get confused by good defenses. His ceiling is basically Vince Young.

Nice try.

L.A. Chieffan · 12-11-2012, 10:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sorter

I missed your trolling. It had been quite some time since you've tried getting everyone riled up.

I got the drink in me tonight

O.city · 12-11-2012, 10:50 PM

Someone with more time than me, go thru and put together Geno's stats against the top D's he played the last few years.

Sorter · 12-11-2012, 10:50 PM

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Originally Posted by L.A. Chieffan

I got the drink in me tonight

Ugh. I wish I did.

ROYC75 · 12-11-2012, 10:51 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city

Physically, maybe.

Mentally, it's not close.

It's not all physicality. Bray has had 2 first round draft picks to throw too and hasn't put up good numbers.

Lets not fool ourselves, I like Smith but he has got 2 top 10 WR's to throw to as well.

L.A. Chieffan · 12-11-2012, 10:51 PM

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Originally Posted by SNR

Nice try.

Not convinced by him. QB just isn't where it's at this year. Hey, it happens. Face it and get over it, let some other suckers draft a QB and we'll all laugh at them.

12-11-2012, 10:06 AM
O.city In Search of a Life Join Date: Jul 2009 Casino cash: $-765936	2013 QB Class This was posted in another thread by Milkman, but it got overlooked so I'm making a thread out of it. I know, another QB thread. But this needs to be put out there for some of the "posters" here to see and think about. The top three in this years class are in no particular order: Geno Smith Tyler Wilson Matt Barkley Thats not counting Bray, Glennon, Nassib, etc. Who are all talented in their own right. So, many posters here want to say, "no not this year, this class is awful don't take one, there isn't a Luck or RGIII in the bunch", which isn't necessarily false. No there isn't a once in a decade guy. Which is probably what Luck was. Hell even more there have been 2 guys of his stature come out in the last 20 or so years. Luck and Manning. Yet there are franchise QB's all over the league. How is that so you may ask? Lets take a look at the last 5 QB classes top 3 guys to come out and get drafted, taking out 2012's class. 2007 Jamarcus Russel Brady Quinn Kevin Kolb 2008 Matt Ryan Joe Flacco Brian Brohm 2009 Matt Stafford Mark Sanchez Josh Freeman 2010 Sam Bradford Tim Tebow Jimmy Clausen 2011 Cam Newton Blaine Gabbert Jake Locker Look at those classes and no, you have to evaluate them at the time they were picked, not what they are now, we don't know what this years class will be in the NFL. I'd argue that this years class is more loaded than any of those classes at the top and from top to bottom. So, you wanna argue that this isn't a year to take a QB? I'll argue that its a great year to take a QB.
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L.A. Chieffan PLAY GOOD FOOTBALL Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: American Gardens Building Casino cash: $2688654	I've been watching a lot of tape on all the qbs coming out and I haven't been all that impressed. Maybe Barkley if I had to pick one but I think we should probably go defense. QB this year is just way too risky, especially with the first pick.
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Mr_Tomahawk Prestige Worldwide Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Spring Hill, KS Casino cash: $-159474	T-Dub going up against a pretty good defense too... http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/footbal...erence=I-A_all __________________ Adopt-A-Chief: John Dorsey
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L.A. Chieffan PLAY GOOD FOOTBALL Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: American Gardens Building Casino cash: $2688654	Geno Smith doesn't have real good mobility and can get confused by good defenses. His ceiling is basically Vince Young.
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L.A. Chieffan PLAY GOOD FOOTBALL Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: American Gardens Building Casino cash: $2688654	Tyler Wilson is a backup.
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O.city In Search of a Life Join Date: Jul 2009 Casino cash: $-765936	I'm fine with Wilson or Smith Mr T.
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O.city In Search of a Life Join Date: Jul 2009 Casino cash: $-765936	Someone with more time than me, go thru and put together Geno's stats against the top D's he played the last few years.
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