Where we are, roster-wise. Volume 2013.

[Direckshun]

I've done this every offseason as a way to track the myriad of players that this team will compile over the next few weeks.

On we go:

QB
Alex Smith
Chase Daniel
Tyler Bray

RB
Jamaal Charles
Knile Davis
Cyrus Gray

FB
Anthony Sherman

WR
Dwayne Bowe
Donnie Avery
Dexter McCluster
Junior Hemingway
AJ Jenkins
Chad Hall

TE
Anthony Fasano
Sean McGrath
Travis Kelce
Kevin Brock

OT
Branden Albert
Eric Fisher
Donald Stephenson

OG
Jon Asamoah
Jeff Allen
Geoff Schwartz
Rishaw Johnson

C
Rodney Hudson
Eric Kush

NT
Dontari Poe
Anthony Toribio
Jaye Howard

DE
Mike DeVito
Tyson Jackson
Allen Bailey
Mike Catapano

OLB
Tamba Hali
Justin Houston
Frank Zombo
James-Michael Johnson

ILB
Derrick Johnson
Akeem Jordan
Dezman Moses
Nico Johnson

CB
Brandon Flowers
Sean Smith
Dunta Robinson
Marcus Cooper

S
Eric Berry
Kendrick Lewis
Husain Abdullah
Quintin Demps
Ron Parker

K
Ryan Succop

P
Dustin Colquitt

LS
Thomas Gafford

Injured Reserved -- Designated To Return
CB Sanders Commings

Practice Squad
TE Demetrius Harris
WR Frankie Hammond Jr.
OL Rokevious Watkins
FB Toben Opurum
ILB Darin Drakeford
S Malcolm Bronson
S Bradley MacDougald

[aturnis]

They all said the same things about Cassel...

[RustShack]

Yeah, but a lot of them had also only played with Huard or Thigpen. Baby steps.

[AussieChiefsFan]

Yeah, I'm not going to take it as meaning too much yet. Just thought it'd be interesting to post.

[ChiefGator]

What is the next deadline on a long-term contract with Brandon Albert? I was thinking July 15th or so.

[ChiefGator]

http://espn.go.com/blog/afcwest/post...r-albert-clady

Nothing earth shattering, so didn't deserve its own thread. But a reminder of the importance of this week.

Originally Posted by ESPN Bill Williamson

It’s deadline week in the AFC West.

July 15 is the final day of the calendar year in which a franchised player can sign a contract extension. Denver’s Ryan Clady and Kansas City’s Branden Albert were both given the franchise tag. Thus, if neither player signs an extension in the next eight days, neither can sign a new deal until after the season is over.

Predictably, the agents for both players will be talking to the Broncos and Chiefs this week. The Chiefs and Albert’s representative have long planned to talk this week. The Denver Post reported on Sunday that the Broncos and Clady will talk this week.

I think the odds are higher that Albert re-signs this week, but nothing would surprise me.

If neither player signs by the deadline, I do not think it will be a terrible sign. Deals can easily get done after the season and before free agency starts next March.

[AussieChiefsFan]

Originally Posted by ChiefGator

http://espn.go.com/blog/afcwest/post...r-albert-clady

Nothing earth shattering, so didn't deserve its own thread. But a reminder of the importance of this week.

Would be awesome to get a deal done for Albert, but I won't be fretting if nothing get's done.

[ct]

Personally I don't think they are going out of their way to really sign BA long term. My opinion only, but think they're goin thru the motions, but have every intention of playing out the 1 yr tag deal and let him walk, thus moving Fish to the left next year.

[ChiefGator]

Signing BA to a long term deal is going to help our otherwise constrained salary cap. We have alot of dead money on the books this year, and may need some contract help just to get all our rookies signed.

In addition, it gives us two good tackles for the next 4-5 years, which is a very good position to be in. I don't think the coaching staff particularly cares where they line up, and BA won't really care once he is signed long-term as well. The only one who will eventually start to care is Fisher, but he has several years before he has to worry about that.

And, when the NFL signs a new TV contract it is expected to be for quite a bit more, which will raise the salary cap and salary floor. Large guarantee money with a fairly backloaded contract is probably the fiscally responsible thing to do in this case.

Finally, it will make some of the anti-Fish people to have to shut up if we weren't basically swapping BA + 1st overall pick for Fisher.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by ChiefGator

Signing BA to a long term deal is going to help our otherwise constrained salary cap. We have alot of dead money on the books this year, and may need some contract help just to get all our rookies signed.

Complete bullshit.

Originally Posted by ChiefGator

In addition, it gives us two good tackles for the next 4-5 years, which is a very good position to be in. I don't think the coaching staff particularly cares where they line up, and BA won't really care once he is signed long-term as well. The only one who will eventually start to care is Fisher, but he has several years before he has to worry about that.

How many tackles in the NFL are "playing at a high level" at age 33 or 34? Besides that, Albert is barely above average at age 28 and he'll be 29 mid-season.

Originally Posted by ChiefGator

And, when the NFL signs a new TV contract it is expected to be for quite a bit more, which will raise the salary cap and salary floor. Large guarantee money with a fairly backloaded contract is probably the fiscally responsible thing to do in this case.

Based on his actions this off-season, I seriously doubt that he'll go for a backloaded contract, unless he receives $24 million or more guaranteed.

And then he's still on the books in 2015.

Originally Posted by ChiefGator

Finally, it will make some of the anti-Fish people to have to shut up if we weren't basically swapping BA + 1st overall pick for Fisher.

Who gives a ****?

[ChiefGator]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Complete bullshit.

Our current cap number for the top 51 appears to be $119,113,860. The cap is about $123 million this year. We are supposed to spend between 4.5 million and 7 million on our rookie contracts. How is that not coming right up against the cap when you look at the fact we have to sign the 1.1 draft pick in Fisher? And we have over 14 million in dead money, which is obviously a big part of that, along with Albert's 9 mill.

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

How many tackles in the NFL are "playing at a high level" at age 33 or 34? Besides that, Albert is barely above average at age 28 and he'll be 29 mid-season.

BA has played five years in this league, one contract, and you already trying to put the fork in him?

There are plenty of players that play well, especially with a move to right tackle to prolong their career. Eric Winston, Locklear for the Giants, Winston Justice, Todd Herremans, David Stewart, Tyson Clabo, etc.. All of these players are between six and ten years in the league and are still productive and playing at a relatively high level.

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Based on his actions this off-season, I seriously doubt that he'll go for a backloaded contract, unless he receives $24 million or more guaranteed.


And then he's still on the books in 2015.

$24 million guaranteed or so sounds absolutely right. I didn't mean a low signing bonus and very low first two years. Not THAT backloaded. No one in their prime would agree to that.

Good, we want him on the books in 2015. You think he is going to go from his prime to absolute crap in two years? That's one hell of a prediction

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Who gives a ****?

I was being a bit facetious, I admit. But, I give a shit about the Chiefs I guess. And I give a shit that we are collecting talent, and not just swapping talent.

[aturnis]

Originally Posted by ChiefGator

Our current cap number for the top 51 appears to be $119,113,860. The cap is about $123 million this year. We are supposed to spend between 4.5 million and 7 million on our rookie contracts. How is that not coming right up against the cap when you look at the fact we have to sign the 1.1 draft pick in Fisher? And we have over 14 million in dead money, which is obviously a big part of that, along with Albert's 9 mill.



BA has played five years in this league, one contract, and you already trying to put the fork in him?

There are plenty of players that play well, especially with a move to right tackle to prolong their career. Eric Winston, Locklear for the Giants, Winston Justice, Todd Herremans, David Stewart, Tyson Clabo, etc.. All of these players are between six and ten years in the league and are still productive and playing at a relatively high level.



$24 million guaranteed or so sounds absolutely right. I didn't mean a low signing bonus and very low first two years. Not THAT backloaded. No one in their prime would agree to that.

Good, we want him on the books in 2015. You think he is going to go from his prime to absolute crap in two years? That's one hell of a prediction




I was being a bit facetious, I admit. But, I give a shit about the Chiefs I guess. And I give a shit that we are collecting talent, and not just swapping talent.

The rookie salary pool is already figured in against our current cap number...

[ChiefGator]

Rookies salaries are included in our salary cap as soon as they are drafted, but they are included at the minimum active list salary, which is roughly $405,000 this year. Clearly Fisher is going to exceed that by quite a bit.

There is no separate rookie salary pool, that is just minimum and maximum values which the team must/cannot exceed when signing their rookies.

http://www.overthecap.com/teamcap.ph...iefs&Year=2013

However, it looks like the Chiefs rolled over 14 million salary cap space from 2012 into 2013, so that would alleviate the problem, at least per Adam Teicher.

[ChiefGator]

Here is an old salary article, but it does have the carry-over for all NFL teams.

http://www.bleedinggreennation.com/2...p-room-by-team

It has our carry-over of $14,079,650, giving us a team salary cap of $132,842,454.

[ChiefGator]

An article on the salary cap that claims we really have $20,000 in free cap room after we sign Fisher.

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-sh...160438390.html

[penbrook]

John Clayton just said B Albert getting signed has a chance. He said they are gonna offer him a contract as late as today and see if he will accept it by Monday.