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Old 03-22-2022, 11:27 AM   #1
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The Bills literally just did what DJ is talking about.

They had a really effective rotational DL last year. Didn't really get the job done in the playoffs, though... so they went out and attempted to add a force multiplier.

I think you kind of need both. You need to be able to put high floor guys on the field together and keep them fresh, and you still need the dude who can when the chips are down.

I'm cool with paying one dude to be a force multiplier on the DL and I'm cool with that being Jones for at least one more season. I'm not really down for making 2 long-term commitments again.
They're a tick earlier in the process than we are though - they can still AFFORD to do that.

I just think we're reaching the point where we have to pick one path or the other.
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Old 03-22-2022, 02:12 PM   #2
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Sharp Football NFL Draft analyst Brendan Donahue projects four offensive tackles to be taken in the first seven overall selections.

Donahue is considered one of the most accurate draft prognosticators in the business, so the fact that he thinks there will be four tackles taken at the top of Round 1 is notable. While the top-three tackles (Ekwonu, Neal and Cross) have been slotted at the top of the draft for the entirety of the offseason, Trevor Penning has been the big riser of the group. The Northern Iowa giant has a huge frame and a nasty mean streak, with Penning pancaking opponents then shoving their faces in the grass. His current consensus pick is to San Diego at 17 overall, a steep improvement from his 30th pick projection pre-combine.
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Old 03-22-2022, 02:53 PM   #4
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My worry with shoehorning yourself into a pass rush heavy draft is we're drafting so late that we could be left with slim pickings.
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Old 03-22-2022, 02:58 PM   #5
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My worry with shoehorning yourself into a pass rush heavy draft is we're drafting so late that we could be left with slim pickings.
You still don’t seem to understand that this is a very deep group.

They can go pass rush heavy without “shoehorning” anything, hence why many of us can see us going DT instead of EDGE in the 1st.

There’s also the option to trade up so they don’t have to reach for what’s left.

There are ways that they can go pass rush heavy without reaching.
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You still don’t seem to understand that this is a very deep group.

They can go pass rush heavy without “shoehorning” anything, hence why many of us can see us going DT instead of EDGE in the 1st.

There’s also the option to trade up so they don’t have to reach for what’s left.

There are ways that they can go pass rush heavy without reaching.
Trading up would make sense. I dont' like sitting and waiting to see what falls, feels like you're just getting whats left.
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Trading up would make sense. I dont' like sitting and waiting to see what falls, feels like you're just getting whats left.
Which is why I think Veach is trading up in the first for either Wyatt, Johnson or Karlaftis.
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My worry with shoehorning yourself into a pass rush heavy draft is we're drafting so late that we could be left with slim pickings.
I think the reason you're seeing so many of us lean towards Edge (and hell, Veach for that matter) is that the draft board will naturally leave better edge talent than the remaining position groups because there's just so damn much of it.

I mean it's possible 1/3 of the draft goes DL before us - it's happened that way before. But if you're open to Travis Jones or Sam Williams at the back of the 1st, you STILL are likely to have guys you like sitting there. And both of those guys have 1st round talent.
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I think the reason you're seeing so many of us lean towards Edge (and hell, Veach for that matter) is that the draft board will naturally leave better edge talent than the remaining position groups because there's just so damn much of it.

I mean it's possible 1/3 of the draft goes DL before us - it's happened that way before. But if you're open to Travis Jones or Sam Williams at the back of the 1st, you STILL are likely to have guys you like sitting there. And both of those guys have 1st round talent.
O.City seems to think there’s some rule that you can’t get a good edge rusher without a top 15 pick.
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O.City seems to think there’s some rule that you can’t get a good edge rusher without a top 15 pick.
Odds aren’t necessarily in your favor of getting an ass kicker after that.

You can get good ones but it gets tougher.

No need to get triggered again
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Would love to get Devonte Wyatt in the first but that would involve trading up. So what do you do? How high would you have to move up to get him? Just curious on what it would take.
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Would love to get Devonte Wyatt in the first but that would involve trading up. So what do you do? How high would you have to move up to get him? Just curious on what it would take.

Not trade up and get Travis Jones instead.
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Got it. Thanks.
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Got it. Thanks.

KC can get to #23/24 if it moves it’s first 3rd, but that’s about it. Might be high enough to get Wyatt but no guarantees.
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KC can get to #23/24 if it moves it’s first 3rd, but that’s about it. Might be high enough to get Wyatt but no guarantees.
Only way we’re trading up is for an EDGE IMO.
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