MU ****Official 2015 Missouri Tigers Football Thread**** - Page 210

'Hamas' Jenkins · 10:48 PM

After seizing the Citrus Bowl from Jerry Kill and the Minnesota Golden Gophers, the Missouri Tigers finish 11-3.

Italics=Likely sign and place
Bold=JUCO recruit

Key Recruits:

2016 Class:

Spoiler!

Schedule:

9/5: SEMO
9/12 @Ark St.
9/19: UConn
9/26: @Kentucky
10/3: South Carolina
10/10: Florida
10/17 @ Georgia
10/24: @ Vandy
10/31: Bye
11/5 (Thu): Mississippi State
11/14: BYU (@ Arrowhead)
11/21: Tennessee
11/28: @Arkansas

WhawhaWhat · 03-08-2016, 06:19 PM

Mizzou QB Drew Lock up to 221 lbs. Played at 200 last year.
— Dave Matter (@Dave_Matter) March 9, 2016

'Hamas' Jenkins · 03-23-2016, 03:14 PM

Abbington and Cuellar quit the team.

DJ's left nut · 03-23-2016, 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

Abbington and Cuellar quit the team.

Abbington probably had cause. I'm not sure why he didn't get more PT last year than he did when all we had was Ish Witter being insanely 'meh'.

Cuellar, if the rumors are true, is welcome to get the **** out of town. If he was as bad about encouraging/enabling Mauk then he is not an influence we need in the lockerroom.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 03-25-2016, 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Abbington probably had cause. I'm not sure why he didn't get more PT last year than he did when all we had was Ish Witter being insanely 'meh'.

I thought so too, but then I heard that he was extremely out of shape last year. I can't speak to its truthfulness, but he also got right buried after that drop against UConn.

duncan_idaho · 03-25-2016, 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Abbington probably had cause. I'm not sure why he didn't get more PT last year than he did when all we had was Ish Witter being insanely 'meh'.

Cuellar, if the rumors are true, is welcome to get the **** out of town. If he was as bad about encouraging/enabling Mauk then he is not an influence we need in the lockerroom.

He didn't play more because he got a little fat, didn't like to work, and wasn't as good as the St. Louis hype machine made him out to be.

BryanBusby · 04-16-2016, 03:56 PM

I've heard some recent chatter about MU and Auburn possibly swapping spots. Would make sense in a geography way, but shit.

I'd assume that Bama would try to block it as that would interfere with the annual win vs Tennessee.

BryanBusby · 04-16-2016, 05:34 PM

Lock looks a bit thin still, but has done already. Whitter looks more confident as a runner and front 7 D looks pretty good still.

Receivers are meh and the Offensive Line is ****ing rough. Getting blown up a lot and at least 3 ****ed snaps so far. They're going to **** everything if they don't get a lot better by August.

Titty Meat · 04-17-2016, 10:31 PM

Was gone for awhile so didn't get to discuss this. Do you guys agree with Kevin Keitzman the concerned 1950 group killed your school/football program? I thought the Odom hire was very underwhelming is he friends with Pink? Herman seemed like a no brainer.

BryanBusby · 04-17-2016, 11:47 PM

The whole thing did some damage to enrollment and recruiting, but I think it's overblown compared to the fact our AD probably is actually pretty bad.

Odom was a Pinkel favorite and the AD is being cheap as **** now. No other reason that Kermit is getting another ****ing year.

TL;DR: AD is stupid and cheap as ****.

duncan_idaho · 04-18-2016, 06:42 AM

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Originally Posted by billay

Was gone for awhile so didn't get to discuss this. Do you guys agree with Kevin Keitzman the concerned 1950 group killed your school/football program? I thought the Odom hire was very underwhelming is he friends with Pink? Herman seemed like a no brainer.

Kietzman is full of shit re: Mizzou, as usual. It did not help, but it didn't kill anything.

Mizzou's enrollment has been outpacing its student housing for several years. There was a bubble there that was expected to burst soon, if you talk to people in admissions. They'd set a new school record for freshman enrollment for 4-5 years in a row. That wasn't going to go on forever.

cs1950 likely accelerated the correction.

As for Herman/Odom, Herman was Rhoades 1A the entire way, but Odom was in the top 3 from the beginning. Herman got a huge raise from Houston and is waiting for the vulnerable Charlie Strong to get canned (which he likely will in the next two years). Tough pull.

Fuente was the other guy in that tier for Rhoades.

Odom is a different situation than Kim Anderson. He was going to be a head coach somewhere strong if not at Mizzou next year. He is young, hungry, and has connections.

Anderson is just a dumpster fire that will hopefully be extinguished after this season.

Sully · 04-18-2016, 07:39 AM

I't is really interesting how Odom is viewed as a step-down hire, I think just because he happened to be on staff. But this was a guy who was going to get looks at other places, and just happened to be at the right place at the right time.
From my interactions with him (few and not personal conversations... just clinic-type stuff), he's got a little learning on the job to do, as does his staff. but i LOVE the makeup of the staff, and the focus behind it. And I think Odom's drive is going to pay huge dividends down the road. I'm very happy with the hire.

Titty Meat · 04-18-2016, 08:42 AM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho

Kietzman is full of shit re: Mizzou, as usual. It did not help, but it didn't kill anything.

Mizzou's enrollment has been outpacing its student housing for several years. There was a bubble there that was expected to burst soon, if you talk to people in admissions. They'd set a new school record for freshman enrollment for 4-5 years in a row. That wasn't going to go on forever.

cs1950 likely accelerated the correction.

As for Herman/Odom, Herman was Rhoades 1A the entire way, but Odom was in the top 3 from the beginning. Herman got a huge raise from Houston and is waiting for the vulnerable Charlie Strong to get canned (which he likely will in the next two years). Tough pull.

Fuente was the other guy in that tier for Rhoades.

Odom is a different situation than Kim Anderson. He was going to be a head coach somewhere strong if not at Mizzou next year. He is young, hungry, and has connections.

Anderson is just a dumpster fire that will hopefully be extinguished after this season.

Yeah Anderson is good as gone. Heard from a family member of a recruit that the players hate him. Not like that's breaking news or anything.

Also how come you guys let McQuitty get away?

Discuss Thrower · 04-18-2016, 09:03 AM

Coming from a non-alumni of Mizzou... I kind of have the same view as my buddy of mine who is also a non-alum.

Supporting the school in light of the CS-1950 cluster**** seems foolish. We were talking about this in reference to the Duke Lacrosse 30 for 30 episode so I don't know his precise reasoning outside of associating with Mizzou being an embarrassment.

From my admittedly worthless point of view, I feel a level of shame for being a MU fan largely because of Melissa Click, the fact several dozens of faculty members went on record supporting Click when it was clear as day she was actively suppressing free speech and because the football team effectively ransomed the school with the financial ramifications of not playing BYU with Gary Pinkel's support. Click got ousted and I'm guessing her husband will also no longer be a part of the faculty come this summer as well, but if Mizzou is in a budget shortfall then they should look no further than the slew of academics that saw nothing wrong with her actions and made this opinion public.

The silver lining here is that Click's two wonderfully embarrassing videos and subsequent dismissal shined a little bit of light into the insanity that is the SJW "movement." Now, it's not just reddit neckbeards and sssssssssssh trolls raising the alarm of just how dangerous "safe spaces" and other suppressive measures taken by today's "progressive-minded" folk are to our country. Other people have woken up to the nonsense -and this is coming from someone who knows that black Americans get the shaft as a rule moreso than an exception both economically and socially via unfair applications of justice and that being gay or transgender isn't immoral nor should it be illegal.

It's not much, but it's a start in my opinion.

But as it pertains to purely a sports perspective... I don't think I'll be shelling out for tickets at Arrowhead or Faurot any time soon regardless of how good or bad the Odom era is and I'm definitely not going to support the joke of a hire that is Kim Anderson as long as he's calling the shots on the hardwood.

If Mizzou can get its house in order and prove that they won't give in to whackjob students and faculty, then I'll willfully support the school through payments at the box office and through wearing black and gold as someone who takes pride being a born and raised Missourian.

duncan_idaho · 04-18-2016, 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by billay

Yeah Anderson is good as gone. Heard from a family member of a recruit that the players hate him. Not like that's breaking news or anything.

Also how come you guys let McQuitty get away?

He reportedly ran a 4.85 forty at camp last summer, and they didn't make him a top priority as a result.

ChiefsCountry · 04-29-2016, 11:57 AM

Elliott and Ifedi play the what if game with those two for Mizzou.

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'Hamas' Jenkins Now you've pissed me off! Join Date: Jan 2006 Casino cash: $7129572	Abbington and Cuellar quit the team. __________________ "When the Know-Nothings get control, it will read 'all men are created equal, except negroes, and foreigners, and Catholics.' When it comes to this I should prefer emigrating to some country where they make no pretense of loving liberty – to Russia, for instance, where despotism can be taken pure, and without the base alloy of hypocrisy.”--Abraham Lincoln
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BryanBusby In Search of a Life Join Date: Mar 2006 Casino cash: $3159900 VARSITY	I've heard some recent chatter about MU and Auburn possibly swapping spots. Would make sense in a geography way, but shit. I'd assume that Bama would try to block it as that would interfere with the annual win vs Tennessee.
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04-16-2016, 05:34 PM	#3142
BryanBusby In Search of a Life Join Date: Mar 2006 Casino cash: $3159900 VARSITY	Lock looks a bit thin still, but has done already. Whitter looks more confident as a runner and front 7 D looks pretty good still. Receivers are meh and the Offensive Line is **ing rough. Getting blown up a lot and at least 3 ed snaps so far. They're going to ** everything if they don't get a lot better by August.
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04-17-2016, 10:31 PM	#3143
Titty Meat Inmem 2.0 Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: My house Casino cash: $-1252442	Was gone for awhile so didn't get to discuss this. Do you guys agree with Kevin Keitzman the concerned 1950 group killed your school/football program? I thought the Odom hire was very underwhelming is he friends with Pink? Herman seemed like a no brainer.
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04-17-2016, 11:47 PM	#3144
BryanBusby In Search of a Life Join Date: Mar 2006 Casino cash: $3159900 VARSITY	The whole thing did some damage to enrollment and recruiting, but I think it's overblown compared to the fact our AD probably is actually pretty bad. Odom was a Pinkel favorite and the AD is being cheap as ** now. No other reason that Kermit is getting another ing year. TL;DR: AD is stupid and cheap as **.
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04-18-2016, 07:39 AM	#3146
Sully It Goes On Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Lees Summit Casino cash: $10026331	I't is really interesting how Odom is viewed as a step-down hire, I think just because he happened to be on staff. But this was a guy who was going to get looks at other places, and just happened to be at the right place at the right time. From my interactions with him (few and not personal conversations... just clinic-type stuff), he's got a little learning on the job to do, as does his staff. but i LOVE the makeup of the staff, and the focus behind it. And I think Odom's drive is going to pay huge dividends down the road. I'm very happy with the hire. __________________ "And I don't wish that girl any bad luck," he said, "but I hope she gets hit with a car." - Tommy Lasorda
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04-18-2016, 09:03 AM	#3148
Discuss Thrower "You like to drink?" Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: "I like to drink." Casino cash: $-460000	Coming from a non-alumni of Mizzou... I kind of have the same view as my buddy of mine who is also a non-alum. Supporting the school in light of the CS-1950 cluster**** seems foolish. We were talking about this in reference to the Duke Lacrosse 30 for 30 episode so I don't know his precise reasoning outside of associating with Mizzou being an embarrassment. From my admittedly worthless point of view, I feel a level of shame for being a MU fan largely because of Melissa Click, the fact several dozens of faculty members went on record supporting Click when it was clear as day she was actively suppressing free speech and because the football team effectively ransomed the school with the financial ramifications of not playing BYU with Gary Pinkel's support. Click got ousted and I'm guessing her husband will also no longer be a part of the faculty come this summer as well, but if Mizzou is in a budget shortfall then they should look no further than the slew of academics that saw nothing wrong with her actions and made this opinion public. The silver lining here is that Click's two wonderfully embarrassing videos and subsequent dismissal shined a little bit of light into the insanity that is the SJW "movement." Now, it's not just reddit neckbeards and sssssssssssh trolls raising the alarm of just how dangerous "safe spaces" and other suppressive measures taken by today's "progressive-minded" folk are to our country. Other people have woken up to the nonsense -and this is coming from someone who knows that black Americans get the shaft as a rule moreso than an exception both economically and socially via unfair applications of justice and that being gay or transgender isn't immoral nor should it be illegal. It's not much, but it's a start in my opinion. But as it pertains to purely a sports perspective... I don't think I'll be shelling out for tickets at Arrowhead or Faurot any time soon regardless of how good or bad the Odom era is and I'm definitely not going to support the joke of a hire that is Kim Anderson as long as he's calling the shots on the hardwood. If Mizzou can get its house in order and prove that they won't give in to whackjob students and faculty, then I'll willfully support the school through payments at the box office and through wearing black and gold as someone who takes pride being a born and raised Missourian. __________________ Chiefs 2016 Opponents: Home: JAX, TEN, NO, TB, NYJ. Away: HOU, IND, ATL, CAR, PIT Chiefs 2017 Opponents: Home: BUF, MIA, PHI, WSH, AFC North. Away: NE, NYJ, NYG, DAL, AFC South
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