***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by sedated

Can you address this one Pete?

It's from April but I don't think things have changed much since then

https://www.nbcnews.com/health/healt...study-n1189906

Underlying conditions were common. The researchers found that, among all patients, 57 percent had high blood pressure, 41 percent were obese and just over a third had diabetes.

[petegz28]

Here is another



https://www.usatoday.com/in-depth/ne...ns/2962721001/

[Strongside]

Italy under 100 deaths today. That’s great to see.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

https://cbs12.com/news/local/woman-w...EfUaL-AH7ThHVU

Woman that designed Florida's dashboard was removed from her position for refusing to change data.

[POND_OF_RED]

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

https://cbs12.com/news/local/woman-w...EfUaL-AH7ThHVU

Woman that designed Florida's dashboard was removed from her position for refusing to change data.

Insane. This is no time for censorship. Wonder why she won’t say what numbers they were trying to make her change. I do always find it odd that these data websites make it nearly impossible to get a breakdown of the total deaths by age. You think that would be something most people would want to know.

The CDC website does have a good breakdown of a lot of good data, though. For instance I was looking through tonight and found that only 8 states are currently above their expected death totals (average from 2017-2019 compared to current total deaths) for the year. Can anyone guess which 8 states those are before looking? Currently, as a whole, the country is only at about 97% of the expected deaths so far this year. Found that to be kind of interesting. Thought it would have been much higher with all of the apocalypse talk I was hearing a couple weeks ago.

***The data is obviously 1-2 weeks behind usually for the death certificates so that numbers a little skewed over the past couple weeks, but should still total out to just around expected as far as deaths in America over these past few months***

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid19/index.htm

[BigCatDaddy]

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

https://cbs12.com/news/local/woman-w...EfUaL-AH7ThHVU

Woman that designed Florida's dashboard was removed from her position for refusing to change data.

According to her.

[Baby Lee]

The epitome of our fractious times in a single sentiment

Image: Not Safe for Work

[O.city]

https://twitter.com/collignonpeter/s...687307778?s=21

So that’s good news

[ChiliConCarnage]

Johnson County has 666 confirmed cases this morning

[OrtonsPiercedTaint]

Get rain barrels so you have plenty of water for washing hands

[OnTheWarpath15]

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

https://cbs12.com/news/local/woman-w...EfUaL-AH7ThHVU

Woman that designed Florida's dashboard was removed from her position for refusing to change data.

Just what, a week after Georgia got busted putting days out of order on their graphs to make the numbers look better?

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by Lzen

I don't know if it's my tastes have become more sophisticated or they have just gone downhill but Pizza Hut used to be really good back in the 80/90s. Now, they're barely edible.

I thought Papa John's used to be decent but the last couple of times we got pizza from them we were disappointed. Haven't had their pizza in about 2 years or so.

Somebody mentioned Dominos being better than they were years ago and I tend to agree. They are not what I would call great, but they have improved a lot.

Little Ceasars is what they have always been, cheap pizza using cheap ingredients. You get what you pay for.

My preference for cheap (relatively) pizza is Papa Murphy's.

But if I want it already made, I will go to Gambino's.

I worked at Pizza Hut when I was a teenager and I can tell you the difference I saw when their pizza went to shit was the cheese. When I worked there you put sauce, cheese, toppings and more cheese. No it looks like they just throw one shit layer of cheese on.

[BucEyedPea]

Originally Posted by petegz28

I worked at Pizza Hut when I was a teenager and I can tell you the difference I saw when their pizza went to shit was the cheese. When I worked there you put sauce, cheese, toppings and more cheese. No it looks like they just throw one shit layer of cheese on.

I heard pizza cheese from big chain pizzerias is full of fillers which means it's not really totally cheese.

[BWillie]

The amount of people in critical care has maintained pretty steady over the last 3 weeks, and the good news is deaths per day seems to have declined to 800 - 1600. Has there been a breakthrough in treatment recently? It may just be the timing of the cases in the other states outside of the Northeast though, I suppose.

[limested]

Originally Posted by petegz28

I worked at Pizza Hut when I was a teenager and I can tell you the difference I saw when their pizza went to shit was the cheese. When I worked there you put sauce, cheese, toppings and more cheese. No it looks like they just throw one shit layer of cheese on.

When they switched from fresh made dough to the pre-made frozen was when I thought it changed the most.