***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by TLO

St. Joe got some more tests back today.

Out of 1351 completed, 23 came back positive.

242 still pending.

Can we interpret anything from this?

Define positive. Asymptomatic? Very mild? Mild? Serious? ****ers are dead?

[TLO]

Originally Posted by petegz28

Define positive. Asymptomatic? Very mild? Mild? Serious? ****ers are dead?

No idea.

[TLO]

Originally Posted by BWillie

Probably not totally random as it was voluntary, but it seems like the virus is less prevalent in the population than some think. At least in the Midwest.

I was chatting with a few people at work and we guessed maybe 5% would test positive due to the Triumph outbreak. Right now we're at 1.7%

I'm surprised the number is that low. We'll see what happens with the test of the 200 something tests remaining.

[Rain Man]

Originally Posted by Kiimosabi

Wow. pic.twitter.com/CKhfIKr3rh

— B/R Gridiron (@brgridiron) May 19, 2020

lol if any of you have tried to run with a mask on it is like impossible

I did a half-marathon (virtual race) a couple of weeks ago, wearing a mask the whole time. In Denver. I'll say this - don't look for a lot of deep passes in the fourth quarter.

[wazu]

Originally Posted by Kiimosabi

Wow. pic.twitter.com/CKhfIKr3rh

— B/R Gridiron (@brgridiron) May 19, 2020

lol if any of you have tried to run with a mask on it is like impossible

Oh FFS

[Demonpenz]

St joe has 12 people in ICU because of the virus. That is pretty good and I can't see progress from here on out just to keep moving forward. The new normal though is just going to be 6 feet and masks and plexiglass until there is something we can do about it. I met someone the other day and my arm got 1 inch and then I realized handshaking is going the way of the dodo bird. *Shower thought handshakes are the new Blood Brothers*

[TLO]

Originally Posted by Demonpenz

St joe has 12 people in ICU because of the virus. That is pretty good and I can't see progress from here on out just to keep moving forward. The new normal though is just going to be 6 feet and masks and plexiglass until there is something we can do about it. I met someone the other day and my arm got 1 inch and then I realized handshaking is going the way of the dodo bird. *Shower thought handshakes are the new Blood Brothers*

Where did you see the ICU number? I know there's 14 hospitalized but haven't seen any ICU numbers.

[BigCatDaddy]

My son has his first baseball practice today. What a great feeling to have things pretty much back to normal.

[Rain Man]

I don't know if it's been discussed yet, but what should be the priority in vaccines when they come out?

I presume that health care workers will be #1. That's reasonable.

Then probably other first responders like police and fire.

After that, do you prioritize hot spots? Denser urban cores? Nursing homes and group living places for seniors? Does priority go to people with pre-existing health conditions?

I pondered a simple way of prioritizing based on death rates by age, and the years of life expectancy lost. Given the pattern of the virus, the priority in that system would simply start at the oldest and work its way down by age (other than a possible flip of children over those under 30). Is that reasonable?

What would be your priority list if you were in charge? Assume (random numbers here) that we can vaccinate 10 million people per month so it'll take 30 months to get everyone.

[ChiliConCarnage]

Originally Posted by Rain Man

What would be your priority list if you were in charge? Assume (random numbers here) that we can vaccinate 10 million people per month so it'll take 30 months to get everyone.

Well, If Im in the UK it'll take a lot less than 30 months but then I need to decide who to help next. If I'm Sinovac in China, Ive got a shitload of months to vaccinate all the Chinese.

Within my own country, Id think you'd go after the most vulnerable. Maybe first line help but they maybe ok with temporary antibody therapies by that time, if we can produce enough.

[petegz28]

I don't know, fellas, but I have about had it with every ****ing commercial and their Covid shit. We don't touch your food. We're in this together. Bla bla bla.

[Monticore]

Originally Posted by petegz28

I don't know, fellas, but I have about had it with every ****ing commercial and their Covid shit. We don't touch your food. We're in this together. Bla bla bla.

Makes you wonder what the **** they were doing to your food before.

[Demonpenz]

Originally Posted by TLO

Where did you see the ICU number? I know there's 14 hospitalized but haven't seen any ICU numbers.

Silver sneakers class at Gensus us has a doctor talk to old people about it and that is the number. Definitely could have misheard or the Dr mispoke.

[kcxiv]

Originally Posted by wazu

Oh FFS

if this gets us football, im 100 percent for it.

[TLO]

Originally Posted by Demonpenz

Silver sneakers class at Gensus us has a doctor talk to old people about it and that is the number. Definitely could have misheard or the Dr mispoke.

Right on man.