***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[DaFace]

Looks like the CDC has decided that surfaces are a relatively low-risk means of transmission. (Person-to-person transmission through air droplets is the primary.)

https://news.yahoo.com/cdc-coronavir...153317029.html

Not terribly surprising, but it suggests that you probably don't need to worry TOO much about things like doorknobs, buttons in elevators, keypads in retailers, etc.

[Lzen]

Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88

Do you need help understanding the word "hypocrite"?

I completely forgot about this post. Actually, I was wanting information. I have not really followed all of this stuff day to day. I was wanting to know what he did, exactly, for you to call him a hypocrite. Geez, sensitive much?

[Lzen]

Originally Posted by PAChiefsGuy

I'll have to try Papa Murphys. They don't have any local ones by me but next time I travel I'll give it a shot.

We have great local Mom And Pop Pizza joints out here in Pennsylvania too. Sicilian Pizza from a local Mom and Pop Italian Pizza joint is GOAT in my view but chain pizza wise I love me some Dominos.

Papa Murphy's is take and bake. You will need an oven in your hotel room.

[DaFace]

And more positive news about an antibody treatment - this one out of China.

https://bgr.com/2020/05/19/coronavir...ine-treatment/

At this point, it seems highly likely that some sort of antibody treatment will be developed. Who knows on the timeline, but there are a lot of studies that suggest that it's likely to work. Still no human trials, though, which is obviously the big test.

[BleedingRed]

Originally Posted by DaFace

And more positive news about an antibody treatment - this one out of China.

https://bgr.com/2020/05/19/coronavir...ine-treatment/

At this point, it seems highly likely that some sort of antibody treatment will be developed. Who knows on the timeline, but there are a lot of studies that suggest that it's likely to work. Still no human trials, though, which is obviously the big test.

I pretty sure thats how RNA Vaccines work, is they get the body to develop anti-bodies. So good thing they are finding a treatment they need to fast track it because there are no side effects (That im aware of) for Anti-body treatments

[PAChiefsGuy]

Originally Posted by Lzen

Papa Murphy's is take and bake. You will need an oven in your hotel room.

Well Airbnb it is then

[BigCatDaddy]

Originally Posted by Why Not?

That’s great! Here in AZ, almost everything is open. Casinos, restaurants, gyms, all businesses, movie theaters, etc.

Outside youth sports???? Nope

So lame. My kids are relegated to playing one on one with me as all time QB or all time pitcher.

They were able to hold summer football workouts at the school this week for 7th-12th as well. He is only going into 7th so never went before until today and loved it. About 50 kids there..they just split into groups of 10.

[O.city]

Originally Posted by BleedingRed

I pretty sure thats how RNA Vaccines work, is they get the body to develop anti-bodies. So good thing they are finding a treatment they need to fast track it because there are no side effects (That im aware of) for Anti-body treatments

They're talking about isolating and developing prophylactic monoclonal antibodies.

An RNA vaccine would create that scenario my inducing the patients immune system to do that.

[O.city]

Originally Posted by DaFace

Looks like the CDC has decided that surfaces are a relatively low-risk means of transmission. (Person-to-person transmission through air droplets is the primary.)

https://news.yahoo.com/cdc-coronavir...153317029.html

Not terribly surprising, but it suggests that you probably don't need to worry TOO much about things like doorknobs, buttons in elevators, keypads in retailers, etc.

Thankfully in my job i'm not around air droplets very of..........wait......****.

[Fish]

Originally Posted by DaFace

Looks like the CDC has decided that surfaces are a relatively low-risk means of transmission. (Person-to-person transmission through air droplets is the primary.)

https://news.yahoo.com/cdc-coronavir...153317029.html

Not terribly surprising, but it suggests that you probably don't need to worry TOO much about things like doorknobs, buttons in elevators, keypads in retailers, etc.

Those surfaces are still disgusting petri dishes though, regardless of COVID. Those Walmart payment kiosks? Fast food 100 flavor fountain drink screens? Yeah, buddy!

[phisherman]

Don't worry, people will be licking those surfaces again in no time.

[Lzen]

Originally Posted by POND_OF_RED

...so far this year we’re actually on the lower end of expected deaths so keeping everyone locked in there homes has obviously taken away a lot of the other expected deaths to even the numbers out a bit.

Originally Posted by Lzen

Can anyone find a reliable source that gives the numbers for top 5 or 10 causes of death so far in 2020? I'm having a hard time finding that kind of info.

I still want to get this kind of info. I would love to see how the top causes of death numbers compare this year to previous years. I suspect that they are down because certain conditions are being reported as COVID 19 even if they were already going to die from something else.

[Lzen]

Originally Posted by Monticore

Doctors have been promoting a healthy lifestyle since the beginning of time , we are not that smart .so the government would have to ban smoking , alcohol, refined sugar, high fructose corn syrup , fast food etc ..

Yeah, that worked really well during Prohibition.

[Monticore]

Originally Posted by Lzen

I still want to get this kind of info. I would love to see how the top causes of death numbers compare this year to previous years. I suspect that they are down because certain conditions are being reported as COVID 19 even if they were already going to die from something else.

I think if the death certificate says COVID/asthma/T2D/pneumonia/renal failure I think all would count towards their own statistics +1 for each . not sure who decides that though.

[Monticore]

Originally Posted by Lzen

Yeah, that worked really well during Prohibition.

Has not worked very well for cocaine/meth etc.. either $$$>health