***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[BigCatDaddy]

Walk it back, walk it back, walk it back, walk it back

https://nypost.com/2020/05/20/cdc-no...irZjg4OgqrawPo

[O.city]

Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy

Walk it back, walk it back, walk it back, walk it back

https://nypost.com/2020/05/20/cdc-no...irZjg4OgqrawPo

As more research comes in, they're changing it. Why is that a problem?

[BigCatDaddy]

Mecca and Titties were 1 and the same..Borh rooting for the virus because of politics no matter how much they denied it.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by Kiimosabi

Why don't you guys jump on people equally for once

WTF are you talking about? I didn't want to get into this but the jumping on people for politics is a bit one sided but not how I think you are saying it.

It seems if you drop some politics but have a specific view of the Covid situation then it isn't political but if you have a differing view then some then suddenly it's very political.

I think some of us are just saying either get on people about the politics equally or don't. I am not calling for or saying anyone should be banned.

[SAUTO]

Originally Posted by staylor26

Oh the media members are only about ratings?

None of them have any agendas (mostly political) whatsoever right?

My point it you’re either naive or too far on one side to see it, because it’s ****ing obviously possible if you just look at the media.

oh then media is political too...

whats that got to do with posters on CP?

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy

Mecca and Titties were 1 and the same..Borh rooting for the virus because of politics no matter how much they denied it.

Actually I agree but tithead to an extent was rooting for extended lock down because he was getting paid to sit at home. He has posted enough to substantiate that.

He suffered from what many suffer from which is they think if they are getting paid and can stay home then everyone else should be just fine regardless.

[Kiimo]

In this thread posting out something political is grounds for getting banned as long as your post is left-leaning. Dropping right wing shit all over it is fine though. But hey, point out blatant failure in state leadership that might be construed as a lefty political post? GET BANNED take that crap to the right wing nutso factory DC that is an unbridled racism and sexism echo chamber so you can get shouted down by a bunch of conspiracy nuts that incidentally are also posting political crap in this thread.

[BigCatDaddy]

Originally Posted by Kiimosabi

Why don't you guys jump on people equally for once

It's just my nature to sale sunshine and rainbows while some sale gloom and doom so we clash.

See a guy like me shares shit about my kids life returning to normal.

Titties post about doing a burn out from the local Burger King because of a mask issue.

[staylor26]

Originally Posted by SAUTO

oh then media is political too...

whats that got to do with posters on CP?

Are posters on CP not political? Are they not also biased?

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by SAUTO

oh then media is political too...

whats that got to do with posters on CP?

I am not defending him but I have seen 3 specific scenarios..

Blatantly political and people got banned

Article posted with a preface to ignore the politics and people got bashed for being political but not banned

Posting political stuff then consistently feigning ignorance of politics and that seems to be largely accepted.


That's just how I have seen it. Obviously we have run out of a lot of things to talk about as this has dominated the discussion this morning.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by Kiimosabi

In this thread posting out something political is grounds for getting banned as long as your post is left-leaning. Dropping right wing shit all over it is fine though. But hey, point out blatant failure in state leadership that might be construed as a lefty political post? GET BANNED take that crap to the right wing nutso factory DC that is an unbridled racism and sexism echo chamber so you can get shouted down by a bunch of conspiracy nuts that incidentally are also posting political crap in this thread.

Yeah that might be believed by people who haven't been in this thread very long.

[Marcellus]

Originally Posted by Kiimosabi

In this thread posting out something political is grounds for getting banned as long as your post is left-leaning.

Complete horseshit.

[ghak99]

....this thread.

It's like people watching in the real world. The herd is sorting itself. To be fair, I'm not sure some people know what they're doing. It's baked in at this point.

[Kiimo]

Originally Posted by Marcellus

Complete horseshit.

Coming from you that is pretty funny

[Donger]

Originally Posted by Kiimosabi

In this thread posting out something political is grounds for getting banned as long as your post is left-leaning.

I don't know who all have been banned, but I'd wager that the majority wouldn't qualify as left-leaning.