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Old 03-01-2023, 01:21 PM  
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The Kansas City Chiefs won the Super Bowl without a star wide receiver, but they could reportedly make an elite offense even scarier by acquiring DeAndre Hopkins.

NFL insider Benjamin Albright told PHNX Cardinals that Kansas City is the "primary suitor" for Hopkins. He doesn't know the draft compensation the Cardinals would receive, but he said it's more likely they get a second-round pick than a first.

After the 2022 season, theScore's Jordan Schultz reported that the Cardinals plan to trade Hopkins this offseason.

Arizona hired a new general manager and head coach after a disappointing four-win season, and Hopkins is set to make $19.45 million (with a $30.75 million cap hit) in 2023. The Cardinals could seek a clean slate by moving the three-time All-Pro wideout, who turns 31 in June.

Hopkins began his Cardinals career by tallying 1,407 yards and six touchdowns in 2020. However, multiple lower body injuries limited him to 10 games in 2021, and he served a six-game suspension to start the 2022 season for violating the NFL's PED policy.

Yet he remains an impact player when on the field. Hopkins totaled 474 receiving yards in six full games with quarterback Kyler Murray last season.

Now imagine what he can accomplish when catching passes from Patrick Mahomes.

The Chiefs flourished without a star replacement for Tyreek Hill, but they could still benefit by solidifying the position this offseason. JuJu Smith-Schuster is a free agent after garnering 78 catches for 933 yards on a one-year deal. The depth chart features several talented question marks in Mecole Hardman, Kadarius Toney, and Marquez Valdes-Scantling.

Adding Hopkins could be great news for Kansas City, but terrible for all opposing defenses.
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Old 04-17-2023, 01:33 PM   #3196
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Old 04-17-2023, 01:53 PM   #3197
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Old 04-17-2023, 01:54 PM   #3198
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Old 04-17-2023, 01:55 PM   #3199
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Old 04-17-2023, 01:57 PM   #3200
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I keep saying the only way this thing happens at all is if we first extend CJ.

Everything is moot unless/until that happens.
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Old 04-17-2023, 02:26 PM   #3201
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Old 04-17-2023, 02:39 PM   #3202
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I mean I don't think he's wrong.

If Cards trade him now they will only save $8.9M in cap and it looks like the market is saying a mid round draft pick if that for compensation.

If they make him a June 1st cut they will save $19.45M.

Sooo I guess the question is....Do the Cards value a mid round draft pick more than about $10M in cap room?
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Old 04-17-2023, 02:44 PM   #3203
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I mean I don't think he's wrong.

If Cards trade him now they will only save $8.9M in cap and it looks like the market is saying a mid round draft pick if that for compensation.

If they make him a June 1st cut they will save $19.45M.

Sooo I guess the question is....Do the Cards value a mid round draft pick more than about $10M in cap room?
Cards are in hell right now because they know they are ****ed till they can get rid of Murray who should have NEVER been given that contract.
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So what's he implying there? That they're gonna cut him?
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So what's he implying there? That they're gonna cut him?
I bet they cut him.....


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Yeah........ Well to be fair our defense got their shit pushed in.
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Or, you know, you could actually play the young guys and develop them.
I feel like I'm in crazy land here. Everyone wanting to trade for a dude that we couldn't afford ATM, is well past his prime(will be 31), has had multiple injuries, and had to take steroids to aid his recovery.

Id much rather roll with the young cheap guys, keep the cap space, and keep the draft pick.

People seem to be super impressed with his play last year, but when you dig into the circumstances you can see when he was playing he was about the only option and was force fed the ball. If you put a healthy JJSS, MVS, or Hardman on that team anyone of them go for 1100+ yds and Hopkins has probably half of the yards he had last year. That team was barren of talent.
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I feel like I'm in crazy land here. Everyone wanting to trade for a dude that we couldn't afford ATM, is well past his prime(will be 31), has had multiple injuries, and had to take steroids to aid his recovery.

Id much rather roll with the young cheap guys, keep the cap space, and keep the draft pick.

People seem to be super impressed with his play last year, but when you dig into the circumstances you can see when he was playing he was about the only option and was force fed the ball. If you put a healthy JJSS, MVS, or Hardman on that team anyone of them go for 1100+ yds and Hopkins has probably half of the yards he had last year. That team was barren of talent.
Curious question...... You say well past his prime.

So the question is,
A) Do you know what Prime means and when it occurs for a WR?

B) What age was Randy Moss in 2007
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Old 04-17-2023, 03:40 PM   #3210
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I have zero problems with playing young guys.

But one of those guys is Kadarious Toney. Despite his abilities, he's NEVER proven he can stay healthy. Until he can even go a half season, let alone a full one, we should be planning on him missing games.
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