***Official 2021 Royals Season Repository Thread***

[ChiefsCountry]

For all things Royals for the new year.

Free Agent Signings:
Carlos Santana
Mike Minor
Michael Taylor
Ervin Santana

Top 10 Prospects:
1 Bobby Witt Jr., SS
2 Asa Lacy, LHP
3 Daniel Lynch, LHP
4 Jackson Kowar, RHP
5 Erick Pena, OF
6 Nick Loftin, SS
7 Kyle Isbel, OF
8 Khali Lee, OF
9 Jonathan Bowlan, RHP
10 Carlos Hernedez, RHP

[ROYC75]

Sad!

[BWillie]

RACE FOR THE MLB #1 PICK!!!!


Colorado Rockies 34-47 .420
Your KC Royals! 33-47 .413
Texas Rangers 31-49 .388
Pittsburg Pirates 29-50 .367
Baltimore Orioles 27-54 .333
Arizona Dbags 22-60 .268 (holy shit that has got to be some sort of record)

I'm officially ready to just either A) See the young guys play or B) Sign Billy Butler & Kelvin Herrera. Bring up Escobar and have some nostalgic fun

[Chiefspants]

Originally Posted by siberian khatru

I expected 77-79 wins. If that's setting yourself up for disappointment, it says a lot more about DM's ability than it does my outlook. If he can't even approach that low bar at this stage, that's on him, not me.

62~ wins should result in a Moore “promotion” and a clean house of the coaching staff. No arguments there. That post is directed at all the folks patting themselves on the back with a “haha I told you all this wasn’t a playoff team in April!”

Anyone paying attention guessed that before the season, and it’s a bit obnoxious seeing so many people coming into this thread reveling in it when the consensus before the year was that the most important aspect of this season would be our performances in the minor leagues.

[Tribesman]

I admit, I bit at the end of April. I wasn't all in, but I thought MAYBE they finally turned a corner. Guess not. On paper, it looked to me like there were some decent-to-solid players, especially the bats/non pitching positions.

[duncan_idaho]

Originally Posted by tk13

You can't trade Mondesi. Unless someone blows your doors off, but they won't because of his injuries. I'm sure people would be all over it because they'd be buying low on a guy who legit looks like a superstar the last two years when healthy. DM literally has no leverage, and you're also giving up the most talented guy in the deal. I don't know how you win that trade.

Trading anyone is going to be tricky because no one gives up prospects anymore, and you'd need guys who are close to the majors to try and line up with the pitching prospects, Witt, Pratto, etc.

Look how we just cut Gutierrez, and that was a prospect from what's considered a good trade these days.

This, exactly.

Whit Merrifield's trade value is lower now than it was either of the past 2 years, and in neither of those seasons did it look like opposing teams were willing to part with even a single top 100 prospect. He has 2 years of control left after this season at around $13M.

Unless there's a team out there that's willing to stop being so passive and actually pay a fair price, I don't see a Merrifield trade happening.

Teams hoard prospects now. Even when getting good value and some control back in return.

The Aroldis Chapman deal, the Chris Sale deal, the Adam Eaton deal... those don't happen anymore. The Eaton deal is something that should serve as a rough framework for a deal with Merrifield, and teams have been unwilling to make that move.

[Bearcat]

Originally Posted by BWillie

Arizona Dbags 22-60 .268 (holy shit that has got to be some sort of record)

[PurpleJesus28]

Originally Posted by Mecca

After today the Royals resemble a ladies asshole after a date with Trevor Bauer.

Now i get why he does his little broadsword celebration after striking out a batter,it all makes sense now.

[Sure-Oz]

Josh Vernier legit pissed off on post game

[ROYC75]

Well I sad 75 wins going into ST. At the time is was based on how we finished last season.
I'll admit, after April I thought that if we played well up to the ASG, it just might carry us into contention for the last WC spot. Basically the team was fighting to get wins with the pitching suspect by being young. That after the ASG the pitching would shine better.

But damn, hitting stopped,pitching got worst, injuries kept up ( which after a short season last year most expected all teams to have injuries ) and we fell apart!

[Mecca]

Originally Posted by Sure-Oz

Josh Vernier legit pissed off on post game

Well what does he expect? He got lucky to cover the Royals for their one good period in 30 years.

[Sure-Oz]

Originally Posted by Mecca

Well what does he expect? He got lucky to cover the Royals for their one good period in 30 years.

I still don't get why Denny didn't retire after they won the WS

[Mecca]

Originally Posted by Sure-Oz

I still don't get why Denny didn't retire after they won the WS

Maybe he's a masochist?

[Mecca]

Today after the game Mike Matheny is holding bible study where they'll talk about the bad man Trevor Bauer and how his penchant for buttsex will damn him to hell.

[duncan_idaho]

Here's my overall take:

I never thought the Royals were going to be REAL contenders this year. I expected better than this - within spitting distance of .500 - and if everything broke right like it did in April, a team that could stay in wild card contention and maybe even sneak into the WC round.

Injuries have hurt the Royals, for sure. But that doesn't account for everything. That doesn't account for pitchers who have had major regressions, who are struggling and can't find a way to move forward (and indeed, don't seem to try anything different but instead just keeping making the same mistakes). That's doesn't account for a defense that continues to struggle and regress and play horribly. That doesn't account for awful pitcher fielding.

And it doesn't account for the lineup struggles, or lineup decisions.

So for me... if the season isn't going to end in wildcard contention, I actually am not upset if the season ends up going really off the rails at the major leagues.

1. That creates the greatest chance this coaching staff is flushed (everyone. Including Pedro Grifol, who has been "coaching" Salvador Perez on his catching skills and has coached him into being worse and worse at the receiving end of things each year).
2. It maximizes the Royals draft value for yet another year. The main difference between 67 wins and 77 wins (other than feeling like you're close for the next season) is draft slot and therefore draft $$.
3. It increases the liklihood that John Sherman pulls the trigger on a front office shake-up and some fresh blood. The Royals have made a lot of changes to the approach to developing pitchers and the approach to developing hitters (following the disaster of 2019). Both are bearing fruit in the minors. So I don't think this is an area that needs whole sale changes. Moving Moore "upstairs" and letting someone else manage the player personnel/acquisition side of things probably is a best of both worlds situation, and it's far more likely if the season is a disaster.

Now, I could see Moore putting his job on the line to defend Mike Matheny. He's loyal. It's a strength and also a weakness.

As for me? I'm going to pay attention the rest of the season to the performance of guys I find interesting at the MLB level (Perez, Merrifield, Mondesi if he ever plays again) and enjoy following the minors. I'll work up a top prospects list of my own after the MLB draft.

It's going to be a lot more fun than it had gotten to be the past few years. The AA guys are obvious. But Erick Pena is now playing pro gamesas well. Can't wait to watch that! (He's 2/9 so far in 2 games).

[Chiefspants]

Originally Posted by Mecca

Today after the game Mike Matheny is holding bible study where they'll talk about the bad man Trevor Bauer and how his penchant for buttsex will damn him to hell.

Seeing that GMDM went to bat for Luke Heimlich, they might be praying for Bauer’s redemption in the majors.