***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by Monticore

I would feel like shit if i was the reason my somebody i know got hospitalized but that is just me i guess.

So would I. But would you only feel like shit if it was from covid? What if you gave someone the flu and it gave them pneumonia and they died?

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by DaFace

Do you actually work for a living, Pete? You have about as many posts in this thread than I have on CP in a year. That's truly impressive.

Thanks???

[Donger]

I'd be fine with people who knowingly have influenza wearing a mask in public, sure.

[BWillie]

Originally Posted by Eleazar

Masks are not respirators and are not intended to be. They do reduce the spread of respiratory droplets that the virus travels on. Viruses don't fly around in the air with their own propulsion system. If you knock the majority of the droplets down at the mask or near the wearer, you knock the virus down.

You have to speak in absolutes to Pete, he doesn't understand nuance. Sometimes though, there is nuance in life. Which he does not understand.

[Mecca]

Originally Posted by BWillie

You have to speak in absolutes to Pete, he doesn't understand nuance. Sometimes though, there is nuance in life. Which he does not understand.

Did you improve your golden tee ranking yet.

[R Clark]

Originally Posted by DaFace

Do you actually work for a living, Pete? You have about as many posts in this thread than I have on CP in a year. That's truly impressive.

Lol I’ve had the same thoughts about several in this thread. Hell that square head is supposed to be in the medical profession, he should be out saving lives instead of posting on here constantly

[Monticore]

Originally Posted by petegz28

So would I. But would you only feel like shit if it was from covid? What if you gave someone the flu and it gave them pneumonia and they died?

If I have the flu I am only contagious if I have symptoms and would stay the home and isolate even from family and not go out , it also why I get the flu shot every year even though I am not risk.

[BWillie]

Originally Posted by petegz28

Thank you for telling us what we already know. But contrary to what you may think, a shitload of people are running around wearing masks, improperly mostly, thinking that it does protect them.

Driving a Pinto is not very safe.

Driving a Geo Metro is safer than that.

Driving a Tesla is safer than a Geo Metro.

Driving a Tesla with a seatbelt is safer than driving one without.

Driving a tank with a seatbelt is safer than all.

[BWillie]

Originally Posted by Mecca

Did you improve your golden tee ranking yet.

Worlds #2 contest is set to start June 1st.

I'm going balls out in this one.

Still don't think I'm good enough to make Top 8 each week, which is what you need to qualify. I was 97th in last qualifying attempt.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by BWillie

Driving a Pinto is not very safe.

Driving a Geo Metro is safer than that.

Driving a Tesla is safer than a Geo Metro.

Driving a Tesla with a seatbelt is safer than driving one without.

Driving a tank with a seatbelt is safer than all.

Uh, wrong. You don't drive a Tesla. A Tesla drives you!!! Get it right.....

[Pants]

Originally Posted by petegz28

Until when? You guys and this selfish kick are cracking me up because we had thousands and thousands of people, including children dying every year from the flu and I will lay $'s to donuts that not only did you not wear a mask, I bet you were going to work knowing you had something only to spread it to others.

Enter corona virus and suddenly everyone now cares......

Your "until when" question has already been answered. Why do you keep pretending like it hasn't?

I would never go to work with a fever, which is a telltale sign of the flu for me. And yes, I did not and will not wear masks once SARS 2 is no longer a threat.

The last time the flu was an actual crisis was in 1918. If there's ever a strain like that going around again, naturally I would wear a mask.

Feel free to watch any number of videos created for lay people like us showing VERY CLEARLY the difference between the flu and SARS 2 if you need to be reminded why people should probably wear masks right now.

[Monticore]

Originally Posted by R Clark

Lol I’ve had the same thoughts about several in this thread. Hell that square head is supposed to be in the medical profession, he should be out saving lives instead of posting on here constantly

talking about me? well I am at work and can still find the time to post in between saving lives.

[Spott]

Originally Posted by BWillie

Driving a Pinto is not very safe.

Driving a Geo Metro is safer than that.

Driving a Tesla is safer than a Geo Metro.

Driving a Tesla with a seatbelt is safer than driving one without.

Driving a tank with a seatbelt is safer than all.

A Pinto is probably safer than a Tesla or a Geo.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by SAUTO

once again they arent sucking air in like your lungs...

So now the mask is to protect me from others? I thought it was to protect others from me?

You and Donger trying to have it both ways I see.

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[Donger]

Originally Posted by petegz28

So now the mask is to protect me from others? I thought it was to protect others from me?

You and Donger trying to have it both ways I see.

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It is both, but primarily to protect others from you.