***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[TLO]

Model updates

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019...asting-us.html

[limested]

Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy

Probably so. I just laugh that the hypocrisy of those that try to shame those that won't hide and wear mask. It's almost like they were unaware those same things would have always saved some lives over the years from other viruses as well. Apparently when the death count reaches a certain amount or the media tells them when to do they start caring about saving lives.

Also a culture thing and will probably become more common and accepting.

Americans have always, and still are, way to self centered to care about others around them.

Goes beyond Covid but we can’t talk both sides of politics here.

[Monticore]

Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy

Probably so. I just laugh that the hypocrisy of those that try to shame those that won't hide and wear mask. It's almost like they were unaware those same things would have always saved some lives over the years from other viruses as well. Apparently when the death count reaches a certain amount or the media tells them when to do they start caring about saving lives.

There is a level of frustration, people have different fears etc.
The one common thing is want things to go back to normal we just disagree on how to a achieve that is while balancing deaths/economy using a lot of unknown variables. Not easy

[BigCatDaddy]

Originally Posted by limested

Also a culture thing and will probably become more common and accepting.

Americans have always, and still are, way to self centered to care about others around them.

Goes beyond Covid but we can’t talk both sides of politics here.

I'd say less than 10% of the people wear mask in places like Walmart now, it's not going to be a thing hear.

Also the US Of ****ing A is the most charitable country in the world. Take that selfish shit elsewhere.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by TLO

Model updates

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019...asting-us.html

I looked at the models for Ks and Mo from CovidActNow.org. Things appear to be going in the right direction.

[limested]

Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy

I'd say less than 10% of the people wear mask in places like Walmart now, it's not going to be a thing hear.

Also the US Of ****ing A is the most charitable country in the world. Take that selfish shit elsewhere.

Your and idiot.

[PAChiefsGuy]

Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy

I'd say less than 10% of the people wear mask in places like Walmart now, it's not going to be a thing hear.

Also the US Of ****ing A is the most charitable country in the world. Take that selfish shit elsewhere.

Less than 10%? Where do you live? Because where im at id say 95-98% wear masks.

My whole thing is if you don't want to wear a mask fine... But don't talk shit on ppl who do. They obviously are doing it to either protect themselves or others. What the hell is wrong w that?

[BigCatDaddy]

Originally Posted by PAChiefsGuy

Less than 10%? Where do you live? Because where im at id say 95-98% wear masks.

My whole thing is if you don't want to wear a mask fine... But don't talk shit on ppl who do. They obviously are doing it to either protect themselves or others. What the hell is wrong w that?

98% of people in retail stores wear mask where you are???? That's nuts.

[Spott]

Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy

I'd say less than 10% of the people wear mask in places like Walmart now, it's not going to be a thing hear.

Also the US Of ****ing A is the most charitable country in the world. Take that selfish shit elsewhere.

If it’s just people walking around outside, I’d say that I see maybe 10 percent as well. At the grocery store I see closer to half, but that also depends on which store it is.

[PAChiefsGuy]

Originally Posted by srvy

So you see a hot chick with a great rack and a fine ass you're checking the face. You are doing it wrong. You are supposed to be drooling at the naughty bits.

I disagree. A girl can have a great body but if her face is ugly to me that is a complete turn off. To each their own though.

[PAChiefsGuy]

Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy

98% of people in retail stores wear mask where you are???? That's nuts.

Yeah here in Pennsylvania you go into a store you pretty much have to. There's signs every where.

I don't think it's nuts at all. Better safe than sorry. We doing good right now time to go hard and put this Virus to rest. Pennsylvania got hit pretty hard we are right in between NJ and NY.

My friend just moved to Texas and he said down there no masks so I think you'll see some parts of country open up a lot faster than others.

[BigCatDaddy]

Originally Posted by Spott

If it’s just people walking around outside, I’d say that I see maybe 10 percent as well. At the grocery store I see closer to half, but that also depends on which store it is.

1 guy out of a few hundred at my gym wears a mask when training. He is about 70ish so I get it. Of course you are talking younger males for the most part so I think that demographic is the least likely to wear a mask.

[Monticore]

Originally Posted by PAChiefsGuy

I disagree. A girl can have a great body but if her face is ugly to me that is a complete turn off. To each their own though.

A brain and a sense of humour would be nice to lol,

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy

1 guy out of a few hundred at my gym wears a mask when training. He is about 70ish so I get it. Of course you are talking younger males for the most part so I think that demographic is the least likely to wear a mask.

Wearing a mask while working out is a good way to pass out, isn't it?

[Spott]

Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy

1 guy out of a few hundred at my gym wears a mask when training. He is about 70ish so I get it. Of course you are talking younger males for the most part so I think that demographic is the least likely to wear a mask.

Damn, my gym hasn’t open yet. Luckily I can at least go running and work out at home as much as possible. I hope when the gym opens back up it will be the same environment as yours.