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Old 11-02-2015, 05:00 PM  
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*** Official 2016 Royals Offseason Repository ***



Well, folks, it has happened. The Royals stand triumphant, atop the heap of MLB.

In this thread, we'll track the action as Dayton Moore continues The Process and attempts to defend the long-awaited title.

Before we get to the meet of it, let's take a minute to reflect ... and say "I'm Sorry" to Dayton Moore.

We gave you hell. Many of us called for your head. But you were right. You got it done. Congratulations. Mea culpa.

Now, let's talk about the offseason:

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The Royals will have a few priorities: Corner OF (x2) and 1 SP, IMO. The rest of the core is solid and will need little tweaking. Looking at the increase in ticket sales, merchandising, concessions, parking, etc., I think it's fair to assume the Royals GROSSED $100 million more this season, or close to it. That gives Glass and Dayton Moore much more flexibility on payroll for 2016 (hopefully).

First order of business will be gauging the Alex Gordon market. If he can be resigned for 4-5 years at around $75-80 million total, it would be hard for KC to pass on that. He's still an above-average corner OF bat, and the Royals will need to bring in at least one proven guy to play in a corner if Gordon walks... and the whole market looks a lot like Alex - guys in their early 30s looking for huge, final contracts.

Second order of business: Make a decision on Zobrist. It sounds like KC will pursue him aggressively. At 34, he's at risk of declining in a big way after a few years. If they could find someone to take on Omar Infante for eating 1/2 of his deal, that would be a great start to things.

If they decide not to spend on Zobrist, KC will need to cobble together some sort of plan for 2B/RF that involves some cheaper options like Orlando, Colon, Dyson, etc.

I could see them deciding his ability to provide great insurance at either 2B or in RF is worth the risk.

Third order of business: Add depth to the rotation with a FA SP. Duffy, Ventura, Volquez and Medlen are locks for 4 spots, it seems. Kyle Zimmer may finally be ready to make a MLB impact, but his innings will be limited. That means KC needs insurance. Will it kill two birds with one stone (and insure against Duffy/Ventura regression) by signing a more top-tier guy? Or does Moore look to Chris Young/someone like him for this depth?

Personally, I think Mike Leake would be a great fit with KC's defense and park, and I know Moore has long coveted him. He's still young - just 28 - and has succeeded in bandbox Cincinnati for years.

Ian Kennedy, Mat Latos, Marco Estrada, and Justin Masterson are some other names that may pique interest (a little further down the list).

Other than that, I don't think KC makes any major moves. Greg Holland will be interesting to observe, as they have one more year of control of him, and he will obviously miss all of that season. I wouldn't be surprised to see a pre-arbitration deal that pays him something like $15 million over the next two seasons, and I wouldn't be surprised to see him turned loose, period.

The bullpen will rest upon Wade Davis/Herrera/Hochevar, filling in pieces around them. Bringing Madson back wouldn't be a surprise, but he could get a big deal from another team that is willing to pay him as their top setup guy or even their closer.

I think the biggest prospects to watch in Spring Training will be:

1) Kyle Zimmer. The hype has built, died down, built again, etc. If he's healthy, he's filthy and a potential ToR arm. But what does he look like in ST, and how many innings can you reasonably expect from him if he does earn a rotation spot? It seems like 120-130 innings would be his limit unless they really stretch (or unless he has a lot of hidden innings from simulated games/extended spring training, which might push him to 150-160).

Having another cheap, home-grown pitcher would be a significant boon for this team as it tries to extend the competitive window (and potentially give KC a strong 1-2 to build its rotation around in Zimmer and Ventura)

2) Bubba Starling. I'm trying to remain skeptical, but I like what I hear about Bubba from this season, and the performance has picked up. If KC does not sign someone to fill the RF slot, I think that's a strong indication KC's front office believes Starling will be ready to contribute in 2016.

Dayton Moore has long said that when Starling's light flips on, it will happen quickly and burn brightly. Time will tell.

After his STRONG Arizona Fall League Performance, he shot up my prospect chart.

3) Miguel Almonte. His late-season stint out of the KC bullpen went poorly, but Almonte has a plus-plus changeup, a good fastball, and a decent curve ball. He may be the dark horse in the rotation competition, and unlike Zimmer, he's set up to pitch a full 180 inning season.

4) RA Mondesi. The only player to debut in the MLB World Series has incredible tools. He still needs to refine his game, but again... he may be KC's best cheap, plus alternative at a key position (2B). His defense would be a boon from Day 1, but he needs seasoning with the bat before he's asked to hold down 2B full time.

And, as always, here are the Prospects:

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Old 03-01-2016, 11:16 AM   #3271
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At the end of the day (or contract), every player's going to want top dollar.

But this was a good way for the Royals to add control and gain a sense of trust. The Gordon/Perez deals will go over very well in the clubhouse.

Again, not saying this gets Hosmer any closer to a deal, but I think it's a good move. Is there a more respected front office inside baseball than ours? I mean, even Scott Boras likes working with us.
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Old 03-01-2016, 11:17 AM   #3272
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Old 03-01-2016, 11:17 AM   #3273
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Do we get more years of control? I thought they just turn the last 2 club option years into guaranteed years.

Previous team options ran through 2019. This adds two years to the deal.
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Old 03-01-2016, 11:18 AM   #3274
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Old 03-01-2016, 11:35 AM   #3275
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Barring a minor miracle, he and Moose are both going to test free agency. They don't have midwest ties like Gordon did, nor were they locked into a very team-friendly deal like Salvy.

Mike Moustakas agreed to a two-year, $14.3 million contract with the Kansas City Royals on Thursday to avoid arbitration, Jon Heyman of MLB Network reports.

They just gave Moose a big pay raise. If he continues to keep improving- I bet they won't let him go. Same with Hosmer.

These guys are Big fish in a little pond. This is home. They would most likely get more money elsewhere-but would be just another player. Money isn't everything.
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Old 03-01-2016, 11:56 AM   #3276
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Barring a minor miracle, he and Moose are both going to test free agency. They don't have midwest ties like Gordon did, nor were they locked into a very team-friendly deal like Salvy.

I've long expected them to leave as free agents, with maybe an outside chance at keeping Moustakas.

Because the team keeps surprising me, I think I have adjusted the likelihood of them staying in KC up a few notches.

Keeping Perez, Hosmer, and Moustakas together for five more years (and incorporating younger players at the positions that require major athleticism - CF and SS) doesn't seem impossible at this point.
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Duncan, don't let the recent success fool you! Expectations management is critical to weathering the long droughts KC sports brings.
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Mike Moustakas agreed to a two-year, $14.3 million contract with the Kansas City Royals on Thursday to avoid arbitration, Jon Heyman of MLB Network reports.

They just gave Moose a big pay raise. If he continues to keep improving- I bet they won't let him go. Same with Hosmer.

These guys are Big fish in a little pond. This is home. They would most likely get more money elsewhere-but would be just another player. Money isn't everything.
Buying out arbitration years really doesn't mean anything to me re: willingness to sign long-term. Its low risk for the player to add a bit of security for years where he's stuck with the team in case he has a bad year and is staring at an unpleasant arbitration hearing.

Scott Boras believes that even if you want to stay with your team, even if you want to give them a discount, you should still test free agency to find out what you are worth. Then you can go back to your team and say "I found out that I'm actually worth X. I'll give you a discount of Y, but you gotta at least do that much"
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Old 03-01-2016, 12:20 PM   #3279
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A bit off topic but Justice Sotomayor referenced the "World Champion Kansas City Royals" in a Supreme Court opinion today:

http://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions...-8358_o7jp.pdf

Nice to see the Royals recognized in legal opinions.
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Old 03-01-2016, 12:23 PM   #3280
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Duncan, don't let the recent success fool you! Expectations management is critical to weathering the long droughts KC sports brings.

Not saying I love the chances, but they now seem better than the nearly zero percent chance I previously would have put on it.

Of course, if Hosmer goes 300/30/100/100/.375/.550 this year and next, they dim again.

I like the commitment to the players and to winning that is being displayed.
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A bit off topic but Justice Sotomayor referenced the "World Champion Kansas City Royals" in a Supreme Court opinion today:

http://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions...-8358_o7jp.pdf

Nice to see the Royals recognized in legal opinions.
This is awesome. The case is a rather dry one where in this phrase: “relating to aggravated sexual abuse, sexual abuse, or abusive sexual conduct involving a minor or ward.” does "involving a minor or ward" apply to only the third item in the list, or all 3? (The court said only the last item by a vote of 6-2)

To make that point, Sotomayor (who is a huge Yankees fan) wrote this:

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For example, imagine you are the general manager of the Yankees and you are rounding out your 2016 roster. You tell your scouts to find a defensive catcher, a quick-footed shortstop, or a pitcher from last year’s World Champion Kansas City Royals. It would be natural for your scouts to confine their search for a pitcher to last year’s championship team, but to look more broadly for catchers and shortstops.
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We got Gordon and Salvy locked up now for the future.

Here is how I would rank the next class in importance of getting signed/value:
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Typically, do players like LoCain see a sharp drop-off related to age?

Personally, if there were one player we were planning on keeping between Hosmer, Moustakas, Escobar, and Cain, I would prefer Cain.
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