***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[BigRedChief]

Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19

It started in China. So ****ing stupid.

Tell you what though, regardless of the whys and hows, the president underestimated and mishandled this one from the jump.

wellll a China diplomat is saying we started it in China. It was a USA military operation.

[BIG_DADDY]

Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19

It started in China. So ****ing stupid.

Tell you what though, regardless of the whys and hows, the president underestimated and mishandled this one from the jump.

People I would like to stab in the eye for 1k Alex. Can we get this ****ing tard out of here for politics.

[Discuss Thrower]

FWIW, how we're operating now is a step above what Singapore is doing currently

[Pitt Gorilla]

Originally Posted by RunKC

According to the census, $40.3 million or 13% of the US is 65 and older. Those are the people most vulnerable to this.

People under 40 have a 0.2% risk and 40-50 aged folks have a 0.4% risk.

This mass hysteria is overblown dude. Yes we need to take it seriously but **** dude. This is targeting the elderly, specifically the obese, cancerous and other heath risk factor people.

Yes we need to be serious about it, but the media is acting like this is going to killl us all.

I have heard/read precisely zero people claiming such. Do you have any actual quotes to support your claim?

[PAChiefsGuy]

Originally Posted by RunKC

According to the census, $40.3 million or 13% of the US is 65 and older. Those are the people most vulnerable to this.

People under 40 have a 0.2% risk and 40-50 aged folks have a 0.4% risk.

This mass hysteria is overblown dude. Yes we need to take it seriously but **** dude. This is targeting the elderly, specifically the obese, cancerous and other heath risk factor people.

Yes we need to be serious about it, but the media is acting like this is going to killl us all.

It needs to be taken seriously period. A life is a life.

Can't believe some of you people with this 'Who gives a shit if an old person dies," crap

[ShowtimeSBMVP]

Deborah Birx points out that 96 percent of South Korea Wuhan coronavirus tests were negative, meaning, the vast vast majority of people were sick with other respiratory illnesses. We should not be panicking about this.

— Katie Pavlich (@KatiePavlich) March 13, 2020

[Rain Man]

Originally Posted by ShowtimeSBMVP

Deborah Birx points out that 96 percent of South Korea Wuhan coronavirus tests were negative, meaning, the vast vast majority of people were sick with other respiratory illnesses. We should not be panicking about this.

— Katie Pavlich (@KatiePavlich) March 13, 2020

I thought that was a really good point.

[BlackOp]

Originally Posted by RunKC

Yes we need to be serious about it, but the media is acting like this is going to killl us all.

Of course they are....they are evil.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by ShowtimeSBMVP

Deborah Birx points out that 96 percent of South Korea Wuhan coronavirus tests were negative, meaning, the vast vast majority of people were sick with other respiratory illnesses. We should not be panicking about this.

— Katie Pavlich (@KatiePavlich) March 13, 2020

No one should taking medical advice from bloggers

[wazu]

Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla

My son, kindergarten at the time, had H1N1. It was the worst thing I've ever endured as a parent. I'm not sure what you mean, specifically, by "panicked", but I've never been so worried about one of my sons in my life as I was during that 2-week period.

My 6-year old got it and I guess I wasn't smart enough to even worry. They sent him home with meds and he got through it no big deal. I also got it, and then my family went down to stay at my parents for a few days. I stayed back and my temp was 104 degrees and I actually had feelings a couple of times that I might die.

[patteeu]

Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19

It started in China. So ****ing stupid.

Tell you what though, regardless of the whys and hows, the president underestimated and mishandled this one from the jump.

There’s a thread in DC where it’s not a rule violation to say that.

Not reported though.

[Bwana]

Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19

It started in China. So ****ing stupid.

Tell you what though, regardless of the whys and hows, the president underestimated and mishandled this one from the jump.

Keep DC crap out of this, or you will be going bye bye.

[SupDock]

Originally Posted by BlackOp

Of course they are....they are evil.

Has anyone even said that it's going to kill us all?

It sounds like you are just as guilty of sensationalizing

[SupDock]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

No one should taking medical advice from bloggers

Correct, I'm not even sure what point she is trying to make

South Korea has one of the most liberal testing policies, so of course they're getting a lot of negative test

[Marcellus]

Originally Posted by Donger

Great, so your gut. Thankfully, we have actual numbers. And no country, not even China, has seen exponential growth of cases. There are 137,000 cases GLOBALLY right now.

And that is starting from December I believe so 3.5 months or so.