***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[Spott]

Originally Posted by Bearcat

It was fun, got about ~10-12 hours of ATVing in (we call them quads out here), but that included several beer/snack/lunch stops.

If you're in Phoenix now though, stay the **** home this weekend... I-17 is a bitch with so many people heading north (true on most weekends, but especially Memorial Day weekend).

Not in Phoenix, but on a plane back to Florida right now. Plane is completely packed. Anyone afraid of the whole social distancing thing may want to hold off on flying for a little bit. Literally every seat is taken.

[OnTheWarpath15]

Originally Posted by Baby Lee

Your choice to be you.

Yep, I'm good. Thanks for your concern!

[OnTheWarpath15]

Originally Posted by Spott

Not in Phoenix, but on a plane back to Florida right now. Plane is completely packed. Anyone afraid of the whole social distancing thing may want to hold off on flying for a little bit. Literally every seat is taken.

So much for the airlines leaving the middle seats empty.

[petegz28]

Happy Friday....

[DaFace]

Originally Posted by petegz28

Happy Friday....

There you go with your black and white thinking again...

[OnTheWarpath15]

Originally Posted by DaFace

There you go with your black and white thinking again...

Only when it suits him.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by DaFace

There you go with your black and white thinking again...

Oh JFC it's a God damn joke already......lighten the **** up, will ya?

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath15

Only when it suits him.

Same goes for you...pull it out of your ass, bro.....

[Bowser]

*checking the political levels in this thread*

[OnTheWarpath15]

~2600 posts in, and NOW it's a joke?

Mods, is there any way to see the percentage of posts per thread in history? He's pushing 8% and that has to be a record.

[Baby Lee]

Originally Posted by Bowser

*checking the political levels in this thread*

Your choice to be a poster.

[DaFace]

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath15

~2600 posts in, and NOW it's a joke?

Mods, is there any way to see the percentage of posts per thread in history? He's pushing 8% and that has to be a record.

I'm sure it's been much higher than that in certain cases. I'm probably well over that in the SpaceX thread for example.

The 2600 in a single thread has to be up there in the record books though.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath15

~2600 posts in, and NOW it's a joke?

Mods, is there any way to see the percentage of posts per thread in history? He's pushing 8% and that has to be a record.

It's not my fault you got a stick up your ass, dude. Seriously. How anyone could read that ant think it's anything other than a sarcastic take on the situation we are is just someone out to be a stick in the mud.

[Megatron96]

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath15

So much for the airlines leaving the middle seats empty.

There have little choice. Flying at 10% capacity is not sustainable. What a lot of people don't understand is it's not just about the flight and the passengers alone. Airlines pay for the flights themselves, the times and destinations, the air and ground crews, gate agents, the gates.

So at least if they cancel most of the flights from point A to B, and have one or two flights that are mostly paying passengers, that's better than paying for all of the above PLUS aircrews/ground crews, flight attendants, gate agents, fuel, etc. for flights that push with only 20 people on them.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by DaFace

I'm sure it's been much higher than that in certain cases. I'm probably well over that in the SpaceX thread for example.

The 2600 in a single thread has to be up there in the record books though.

Go big or go home as they say ...or something like that