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Dante84 · 09:40 AM

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TRR · 02-12-2022, 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Jerm

Andy’s not going to change or learn…this is who he is.

LOL! I’m more than fine with who he is.

TEX · 02-12-2022, 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Bearcat

Someone a while back said motivation comes into play during preparation, not execution... and that seems accurate to me.

Maybe so... Point being it only gets you so far.

suzzer99 · 02-12-2022, 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Jerm

Andy’s not going to change or learn…this is who he is.

I don't understand how we repeatedly screw up instant replays when every single fan at home is screaming at the TV to challenge. If Andy hadn't wasted that timeout and then challenged the terrible 4th down spot, the end of the half plays out differently and we might very well be in the Super Bowl right now.

And this isn't close to the first time this has happened. Not challenging Ben Niemann's one great play of the entire year where he caused a fumble. The Tyreek circus catch in the end zone where the ball landed on him. Some others I'm forgetting.

It makes me wonder what else they're screwing up that isn't as easy to see from the outside.

Jerm · 02-12-2022, 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by suzzer99

I don't understand how we repeatedly screw up instant replays when every single fan at home is screaming at the TV to challenge. If Andy hadn't wasted that timeout and then challenged the terrible 4th down spot, the end of the half plays out differently and we might very well be in the Super Bowl right now.

And this isn't close to the first time this has happened. Not challenging Ben Niemann's one great play of the entire year where he caused a fumble. The Tyreek circus catch in the end zone where the ball landed on him. Some others I'm forgetting.

It makes me wonder what else they're screwing up that isn't as easy to see from the outside.

I 100% agree…it’s ridiculous.

-King- · 02-12-2022, 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by suzzer99

I don't understand how we repeatedly screw up instant replays when every single fan at home is screaming at the TV to challenge. If Andy hadn't wasted that timeout and then challenged the terrible 4th down spot, the end of the half plays out differently and we might very well be in the Super Bowl right now.

And this isn't close to the first time this has happened. Not challenging Ben Niemann's one great play of the entire year where he caused a fumble. The Tyreek circus catch in the end zone where the ball landed on him. Some others I'm forgetting.

It makes me wonder what else they're screwing up that isn't as easy to see from the outside.

Anytime a coach calls a timeout before challenging the play, they should be docked a game check. I don't care if you win 50-0, a mistake like that should cost you something. It's just so unbelievably stupid that I don't get how coaches constantly do it.

staylor26 · 02-12-2022, 01:08 PM

You morons don’t seem to understand that challenging the spot of the ball is almost always a bad bet, even when it seems obvious in real time.

Andy’s TO allowed him to see that they got a good enough good look to overturn the call.

Having to use a TO was unfortunate, but that was on the ****ing refs for a terrible ****ing spot.

Jerm · 02-12-2022, 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26

You morons don’t seem to understand that challenging the spot of the ball is almost always a bad bet, even when it seems obvious in real time.

Andy’s TO allowed him to see that they got a good enough good look to overturn the call.

Having to use a TO was unfortunate, but that was on the ****ing refs for a terrible ****ing spot.

You don’t need a TO there….it was clear by a yard he got it and it would be overturned, that’s what your replay team is there for.

-King- · 02-12-2022, 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26

You morons don’t seem to understand that challenging the spot of the ball is almost always a bad bet, even when it seems obvious in real time.

Andy’s TO allowed him to see that they got a good enough good look to overturn the call.

Having to use a TO was unfortunate, but that was on the ****ing refs for a terrible ****ing spot.

What? If you're going to waste a timeout either way, just call the challenge regardless if you think you're right or wrong.

Sassy Squatch · 02-12-2022, 01:17 PM

Yeah.... There's literally no reason to use a timeout first before a challenge unless you have to be absolutely right and think you'll need 3 challenges for whatever reason in the game.

staylor26 · 02-12-2022, 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by -King-

What? If you're going to waste a timeout either way, just call the challenge regardless if you think you're right or wrong.

Then you lose a challenge too. It’s not as simple as you’re making it seem.

I’m not saying it’s good or smart that he took a TO, but I understand it.

-King- · 02-12-2022, 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26

Then you lose a challenge too. It’s not as simple as you’re making it seem.

I’m not saying it’s good or smart that he took a TO, but I understand it.

If you lose the challenge...so what? All it costs you is a timeout which in this case you already spent.

Calling a timeout before a challenge is always dumb. Best case scenario is that you win but you're still out of a timeout.

Sassy Squatch · 02-12-2022, 01:22 PM

Also, judging by what others have said happened afterwards between Reid and Mahomes, doesn't sound like that was his intent. He just made a mistake.

staylor26 · 02-12-2022, 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by -King-

If you lose the challenge...so what? All it costs you is a timeout which in this case you already spent.

Calling a timeout before a challenge is always dumb. Best case scenario is that you win but you're still out of a timeout.

No, it would cost you a challenge as well.

In most cases I would agree, but this was unique in that he was challenging a spot, and like I said, that’s always a difficult proposition.

I just don’t understand why the anger is directed towards Reid when the garbage ****ing refs were the only reason we were in that position. They both somehow missed an obvious 1st down. That was far more egregious.

staylor26 · 02-12-2022, 01:30 PM

Besides, if Mahomes simply throws the ball away at the end of the half, we get 3, and this isn’t even a discussion.

People so desperately want to blame somebody other than Pat when the fact is, that loss was solely on him. Dude had the yips for the entire 2nd half after making a huge mistake at the end of the 1st. Blame him.

Jerm · 02-12-2022, 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26

Besides, if Mahomes simply throws the ball away at the end of the half, we get 3, and this isn’t even a discussion.

People so desperately want to blame somebody other than Pat when the fact is, that loss was solely on him. Dude had the yips for the entire 2nd half after making a huge mistake at the end of the 1st. Blame him.

It wasn’t solely on him…Andy/EB wear that shit too, Chris Jones gets some of it too…in fact the entire DL.

They all wear it.

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staylor26 In Search of a Life Join Date: Oct 2007 Casino cash: $1539040	You morons don’t seem to understand that challenging the spot of the ball is almost always a bad bet, even when it seems obvious in real time. Andy’s TO allowed him to see that they got a good enough good look to overturn the call. Having to use a TO was unfortunate, but that was on the **ing refs for a terrible **ing spot.
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Sassy Squatch The man you could post like. Join Date: Oct 2010 Casino cash: $2209655	Yeah.... There's literally no reason to use a timeout first before a challenge unless you have to be absolutely right and think you'll need 3 challenges for whatever reason in the game.
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Sassy Squatch The man you could post like. Join Date: Oct 2010 Casino cash: $2209655	Also, judging by what others have said happened afterwards between Reid and Mahomes, doesn't sound like that was his intent. He just made a mistake.
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staylor26 In Search of a Life Join Date: Oct 2007 Casino cash: $1539040	Besides, if Mahomes simply throws the ball away at the end of the half, we get 3, and this isn’t even a discussion. People so desperately want to blame somebody other than Pat when the fact is, that loss was solely on him. Dude had the yips for the entire 2nd half after making a huge mistake at the end of the 1st. Blame him.
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