I am a GOOD American

I am your best friend. I am a GOOD American.

I like big cars, big hooters, and big paychecks. I believe that the money I make belongs to me and my family, but I recognize that it is to my benefit if as many people as possible get fed, clothed, and get a good education, so I don’t mind having to pay taxes. I recognize that I live in a society that makes it possible for me to live so nicely, and I’m ok with giving back to that society.

I am in touch with my feelings. I know who I am. I’m not afraid of facing the truth, even when it is ugly. I don’t believe that anyone has ever died because of something that Ozzy Osbourne sang, though I recognize that children are impressionable, so I do my best to be a good role model for those who might look for me to be one. I don’t believe that owning a gun makes you a killer, though I have no problem with gun control. I think licensing handguns is a good idea that would hurt nobody but the lazy, and that if you think that licensing is the first step to confiscation, then you really don’t know what America is all about. Don’t tread on me with your ignorance.

I don’t think that being a minority makes you noble or victimized, but I recognize that this country was built in large part by slaves who paid the way for a lot of the rich families of this country. Like I said before, I’m not afraid of facing the truth, even when it is ugly. I realize that this land was stolen from the Indians who lived on it before us. I think it’s a shame when people marginalize the sacrifices that the American Indians gave up for this great country.

I believe that graduating from college is the best thing you can do for yourself, and I don’t care how you pay for it. I believe that anyone who really wants to graduate from college can… Where there’s a will, there’s a way. Don’t come crying to me because you trapped yourself in a factory job and bought a really cool car before you put a serious investment in yourself. But don’t worry, I pay taxes to help people like you if you did. And I’m more than happy to do so, sitting in my office with a view, and diplomas on the wall.

I believe that my daughter is just as smart as your son. She could probably kick his *** too, if she put her mind to it. And it will be over my dead body that you deny her of the same opportunities that your son should enjoy. This is America, and females are Americans too.

I am happy to see that President Bush is doing his weekly addresses in both English and Spanish. America is the land of the diverse, and if you can’t handle that, then you are in the wrong place. I'm against the weekly presidential radio address being in ebonics though.

I am my own hero. I don’t need to look to anyone but my God, myself, and my family for strength. I like watching television, but I’m not going to make fictional characters my heroes. You can pretend that you’re John Wayne if you want. My little son thinks that he’s a cowboy too. When he gets old enough, he’ll realize that there is no such thing as a cowboy anymore… Just farmers, and God bless them all.

I believe that every vote should count, and I’m not fooled by the results of this last election. I’ll accept it, but I believe the next time we should actually VOTE the president in. It was a tough situation, and I can see both sides. I’m not going to pretend that one side or the other was wrong or right, but I will say that the Supreme Court shouldn’t have acted so visibly biased. The solutions are out there if you bother to look for them in every instance, including this one.

You can be proud of yourself for being a BAD American if that’s what you are. I’ll choose to be proud of being a GOOD American, because that’s what I am.

Originally posted by frazod
And you've called ALL OF US racists throughout this thread - anyone who disagrees with you. You've done it thoroughly and consistently, and you damn well know it.

Actually, that is a lie. But whatever. You've painted me in the light that you want to see me, so carry on. Like I said, you go back and show me where I called Dog a racist. Go ahead. Try.

It's a little hard to take the high road when you're mired in shit, pal.

I suppose you would know.

Originally posted by Rick Stephens
Frazod,

I ask Taco to show me one school district in the United States where anything other than English was taught as the primary language. All I get is some of his name calling.

Actually, I kindly pointed you in the direction of the Constitution. Look up "First Amendment."

I never made any claims as to schools that teach spanish as a first language. I'm sure that there are some... But I've made no such claims.

I've only pointed out that we have a constitution, and within that constitution is a clause called the "First Amendment." Please, look it up.

[LapDog]

You've finally unveiled the truth of the matter. We don't mind Mexican people coming over here. What we have a problem with is all the Catholics!

LapDog
(just kidding people)

[Frazod]

No, its not a lie. Everyone who's been here knows your MO. Just because I'm not inclined do dig through multiple pages of your bullshit to prove it at 12:20 a.m. on a work night doesn't change the facts. I clearly remember you mocking Lap Dog as "Frazod's Lap Dog" and blasting him with the same crap your hit everyone else with - granted, you haven't singled anyone else out the way you have me, but that really doesn't change things much, does it?

To me, the truth is the truth. To you, the truth is whatever crap you're spewing at the moment.

Again, as expected, no response to the overpopulation thing, and no admission that Mexico must be held accountable for its own problems. Just more smokescreen. You're falling into a very regular pattern.

Originally posted by frazod

Again, as expected, no response to the overpopulation thing, and no admission that Mexico must be held accountable for its own problems. [/B]

You just refuse to pay attention, don't you?

Your other stuff is indeed a lie. And if you don't want to bother to prove that your not a liar, that's your deal. I never called Lap Dog a racist. I did call him you lap dog, because he has had to consistently come to your rescue.

But don't worry... You don't need to prove anything, because someone will come by to bail you out without actually searching for the evidence. Probably HC.

It appears that the board swallowed a post of mine... Here it is again.

Originally posted by frazod

Okay, just to make you happy. The two main reasons you give for Mexico's horrible conditions are: 1. US Companies taking advantage of Mexican workers, and 2. Drugs in America.

Actually, you've got me out of context there... Drugs in America isn't Mexico's problem in the least. It's an American problem... Especially considering the appetite for Drugs that America has. I merely point it out as an opportunity that Mexican drug lords have in this country. And the solution that I provided for this is for the American government to take the profit out of illegal drug trade by controlling it themselves.

In case you haven't noticed, big companies take advantage of EVERYONE. They just do it on a far grander scale in Mexico. And I guess there's not a lot you can do about it, because if you demand higher wages, they'll just move their operations elsewhere. Of course, where would the Mexican people be if these companies weren't offering them jobs. They may not pay much, but its certainly better than nothing.

DING DING DING!... There we go. Now you're talking. At least you recognize that there is American influence in Mexico, and it is part of the reason they are hurting. See? That didn't hurt so bad.

As for the drugs, you simply say the US should "control its drug problem." Duh. And how do you propose to do this? My answer, if you recall, is the legalization of all drugs, bringing them under legal control. I've mentioned that a couple of times - you must have been too busy talking about hate and racism to notice it.

Actually, if you were paying attention, then you would have noticed that I gave you credit for it.

Of course, these issues are just red herrings. You blame us, and a lack of resources, for everything. The poor Mexicans are just victims, of the Unitd States, and have no responsibility at all for the mess their country has become. That's ridiculous.

I do? Please give me an example if you are going to make a broad sweeping statement like that. I've done no such thing. I've already taken the steps to identify the source of the symptoms in America. I said nothing of illegal immigrants being victims. Just opportunists. A lot like the illegal canadian immigrants that we all seem to be batting a blind eye toward.

To me it seems that overpopulation is Mexico's biggest problem, and the blatantly simple solution is the implemention of population control. How about a little birth control?

Actually, it's a cultural issue. Mexico is a very religious culture... particularly toward Catholicism. They are taught as adolescents that birth control subverts the will of God, and is therefore a sin. So, no, it's not as easy as you make it sound. But we can agree that population control is of need. It's easy to identify symptoms... But if you don't go the extra steps to find the sources, you are just spinning the hampster wheel.

I have a certain degree of sympathy for poor people, but people who can't even support themselves and then produce child after child after child and then whine that they need help feeding them strike me as hideously irresponsible and stupid.

Or very religious. Again, it's a cultural and religious issue.

And speaking of taking responsibility, again it should be the responsibility of MEXICAN CITIZENS to fix their corrupt and disfunctional government. Even someone as bent as you can't really believe that every single problem in the Mexican government is the result of American bribes.

I never said that every single problem in the Mexican government is the result of American bribes... But there are plenty of problems that arise from the American bribes... And these problems lead to the symptoms of illegal immigration. For every action, there is an equal and opposite reaction... Yin and yang, so to speak.

[Frazod]

I retract this post - it appears Taco answered me after all. As fucked up as the BB's been tonight, I have no trouble believing that the board ate his post.

Will read and get back to you.

[Rick Stephens]

Taco here is part of one of the laws to become a United States citizen.

Becoming a United States Citizen.

You will need to take a test which demonstrates that you can speak and write in English. You will also be tested on basic history and government in the United States.
You may qulify to take the exam in you native language if:

You are over 50 years old and have been a permanent U.S. resident for over 20 years.

You are over 55 and have been a permanent U.S. resident for over 15years.

So Taco, it is not about free speech. One on the laws of our country is that you must be able to read and write in English, if you want to become a citizen. This is why we teach our children in school to read and write in English. English is the language of our country. I don't believe that you will find any school district in the United States which doesn't teach English as the primary language because this would violate federal law and state law.

[i]
For just one moment, why don't you just forget everything you have or haven't said, summarize your thoughts and answer my question? Or do you not have sack for it? [/B]

I did... See below..

[LapDog]

TJ-

I've been reading that article on US immigration. It's pretty enlightening but I see a few things that I disagree with. I'll try to get my perspective to you later. It's a slow read for me.

LD

Originally posted by Rick Stephens
Becoming a United States Citizen.

You will need to take a test which demonstrates that you can speak and write in English. You will also be tested on basic history and government in the United States.

I took a lot of tests in College that I passed then, and would probably fail now. When you study specifically for the test, that seems to happen.

So Taco, it is not about free speech. One on the laws of our country is that you must be able to read and write in English.

Actually, you're wrong. It's not a law, by any means. Such a law would be unconstitutional. There is a test that requires it, for sure. But not a law. Two very different things.

I don't believe that you will find any school district in the United States which doesn't teach English as the primary language because this would violate federal law.

Which federal law is this? The ACLU would be all over it if there were such a law. No such law exists.

It is a free speech issue. You can't get around that. You just can't. It's there in the constitution. See "First Amendment."

[The_Grand_Illusion]

Thought some of you would be interested in reading this.

http://www.westga.edu/~bquest/1998/mexico.html

TGI

Rick, which part of "Congress shall make no law abridging the freedom of speech" do you not understand?

There is a huge difference between a test and a law.

[Frazod]

So you did. As you will see below, I retracted what I said when I realized it.

Okay, now I might surprise you, Taco. While I am politically conservative, I am not religiously conservative. I don't put a lot of stock in organized religion, and adamantly believe that it generally causes more problems than it cures. How many unspeakable evils have been perpetrated against humanity in the name of God? We'd certainly have to start another thread to debate that one.

Now, of course I realize most Mexicans are Catholics. I know many impoverished people of the world are Catholic. But when it coves to poverty, overpopulation and the starvation of children, Catholicism simply flies in the face of logic, intelligence, and sorry to say it, decency. When it comes to third world countries, being opposed to birth control is quite simply being in favor of children starving to death. An impoverished married couple who can't afford to provide for the children they have simply shouldn't then set about having several more. This is horribly irresponsible, IMO, and not practical in this day and age. When I hear the Pope continually speak out against birthcontrol, it makes me believe that he must be oblivious to the suffering that results.

To me, religion should take a back seat to reality.

Now, I know my views on religion p!ss people off, which is why I generally avoid religious topics. But I propose a reasonable, and, IMO, necessary solution to world (not just Mexican) overpopulation and poverty.

As for the US Companies thing, yes, I know they fuck people over down there. I never said they didn't. I merely said all the problems down there aren't specifically their fault.

And I honestly never noticed any acknowledgement from you that I ever had a good idea about anything until now. Must have missed whatever comment you made about the drug thing.

[Logical]

Tim

Originally posted by frazod
Hey Jim, I noticed in my few visits to pigskin park that you are a moderator, along with Denise. How's that working out for you?

Actually just fine, I am amazed at the civility on what is really a philosophical, political BB with a pretty fair split between liberal and conservative bents. Had one day where two people kind of got into it, and one wanted the other censored. I worked through it without any censoring and everything smoothed over. I have yet to need to use my Superpowers- but I am sure the day will come. I like all three boards and must say it is amazing as of now the Stars problem children are either behaving or have left.

Thanks for asking, would like to be on here a little more but work really has me busting my hump lately.