Chiefs Pioli Deserves Props - Page 22

Hoover · 04-29-2012, 09:12 AM

The NFL draft is a lot like Christmas morning. There is a lot of anticipation leading up to the big day, and when the time finally arrives to see what’s under the tree for us we can sometimes be a little disappointed.

We all remember the Christmas that we got everything we wanted. For Chiefs fans that was last year. We got a QB, WR, DBs, and LBs. Heck we even liked the more practical gifts like a Rodney Hudson. Frankly, the 2011 draft gave us a lot to play with, and we used them.

After a big year like 2011, some of you seem down. Sure we got the big present we always talk about (NT), but its’ not as cool as we thought it would be. We also ended up with some more practical gifts than we expected.

Here is how I view this draft, and to be honest I’m pretty stoked about it.

After having a draft like we did in 2011 where we seemed to hit on almost every pick, it wasn’t necessary for the Chiefs to snag additional pass rushers to sit behind guys like Hali and Houston. While we are still a little shallow when it comes to the safety position and could use some depth at center, the Chiefs are well positioned. In fact, I think the practicality of the 2012 Chiefs draft will allow them the flexibility in future drafts to aggressively seek out play makers to add to this team.

If there is one thing that I think Pioli deserves credit for, it’s rebuilding the Chiefs offensive live. While Albert was already hear when he arrived, Pioli not only filled a glaring hole at RT when he signed Eric Winston, but his last three drafts has set the Chiefs on a course to maintain a quality offensive line for years to come.

Many on this board recoiled at any suggestion that the Chiefs should use their first round pick on a lineman. After all the heated debates about the value of DeCastro, Pioli seems to agree with those who don’t want to invest first round picks on the line. Maybe instead of bitching that we didn’t have the Steelers’ draft, some of you should praise Pioli for doing exactly what you advocated for.

In the last three years, Pioli has taken four offensive linemen in the 2nd and 3rd rounds of the draft. Asamoah and Hudson are now starters. Jeff Allen is going to push Ryan Lilja for a starting spot at guard, but is more likely to be seasoned for a year before finding a permanent home on the life. I know it’s sometimes hard to get excited about the offensive line, but Pioli obviously has a process that seems to be working really well.

Picking back-to-back tackles isn’t as exciting as drafting guys like Justin Houston or Javier Arenas, but it feeds a system that can produce quality linemen that allows the Chiefs not use first round picks on offensive tackles, guards, or centers. It also means that the Chiefs will not be forced to commit free agent dollars on those positions either.

We are lucky to have landed Winston this offseason. Without him there would probably be no Poe. I like how Pioli is building this team. While I continue to be frustrated about Cassel, finding a franchise QB is never easy. We have had three solid drafts under Pioli and we can already see the results. Yes we need to find a QB, but at least we are building a strong team while we continue to look for him.

**BigMeatballDave** · 04-29-2012, 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Pawnmower

And yet you actively WISH for an injury to the QB.

Because you are a fool.

Go suck on your mother colostomy bag

Hammock Parties · 04-29-2012, 04:36 PM

You people are literally advocating going into the season with a 2nd year QB who has never thrown a pass, and a career loser, as a positive backup QB position.

THINK ABOUT THAT.

We're 8-4, fighting for the division, Cassel sprains his ACL in a key game and Jim Nantz says:

"Cassel's replacement is Ricky Stanzi...who has never thrown a pass in an NFL game."

"I bet this next play is a run, Phil."

SMART ****ING GM

Hammock Parties · 04-29-2012, 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Just Passin' By

What were the salary cap number's for the backup QB that year?

That has nothing to do with anything, we had plenty of cap room this offseason.

Just Passin' By · 04-29-2012, 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Satanic Goat

That has nothing to do with anything, we had plenty of cap room this offseason.

Of course it has something to do with it. You're going back to pre-cap examples.

Coogs · 04-29-2012, 04:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Satanic Goat

You people are literally advocating going into the season with a 2nd year QB who has never thrown a pass, and a career loser, as a positive backup QB position.

THINK ABOUT THAT.

We're 8-4, fighting for the division, Cassel sprains his ACL in a key game and Jim Nantz says:

"Cassel's replacement is Ricky Stanzi...who has never thrown a pass in an NFL game."

"I bet this next play is a run, Phil."

SMART ****ING GM

When did you become a Cassel fan?

Pasta Little Brioni · 04-29-2012, 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Satanic Goat

The Poe pick is honestly a complete ****ing abortion and no one should be defending it right now.

You don't pick players with shit production at #11. You just ****ing don't. It's reeruned as hell.

Right now it feels like we drafted Poe because the idiot in charge ignored NT for 3 years, and he backed himself into a corner, and reached.

**** that pick. And this is coming from someone who defended Tyson Jackson for a season.

....and if he turns out to be a good player, nobody is going to give a ****. Look how many guys with "production" fail. Player development is everything.

**Ming the Merciless** · 04-29-2012, 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Just Passin' By

What was the salary cap number for that year?

Mike Livingston spent it all on cocaine and a failed disco club.

Fritz88 · 04-29-2012, 04:40 PM

Only people with tiny dicks hate Pioli.

Rasputin · 04-29-2012, 04:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coogs

When did you become a Cassel fan?

He got to be trolling that's what he does. He can't believe his own dribble.

Hammock Parties · 04-29-2012, 04:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Just Passin' By

Of course it has something to do with it. You're going back to pre-cap examples.

Backup quarterbacks aren't expensive. In any era.

Just Passin' By · 04-29-2012, 04:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Satanic Goat

You people are literally advocating going into the season with a 2nd year QB who has never thrown a pass, and a career loser, as a positive backup QB position.

THINK ABOUT THAT.

We're 8-4, fighting for the division, Cassel sprains his ACL in a key game and Jim Nantz says:

"Cassel's replacement is Ricky Stanzi...who has never thrown a pass in an NFL game."

"I bet this next play is a run, Phil."

SMART ****ING GM

You're really going down this path now?

Brady was 1 for 3 in 2000, before becoming the backup in 2001. Using your logic, Brodie Croyle, post 2007, would have been the better backup choice in that situation.

Rasputin · 04-29-2012, 04:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Satanic Goat

You people are literally advocating going into the season with a 2nd year QB who has never thrown a pass, and a career loser, as a positive backup QB position.

THINK ABOUT THAT.

We're 8-4, fighting for the division, Cassel sprains his ACL in a key game and Jim Nantz says:

"Cassel's replacement is Ricky Stanzi...who has never thrown a pass in an NFL game."

"I bet this next play is a run, Phil."

SMART ****ING GM

Tom ****ing Brady never threw an NFL pass untill he threw his first NFL pass in the NFL. In fact no QB has thrown there first NFL pass untill they threw there first NFL pass dipshit! They all had to have there first.

Hammock Parties · 04-29-2012, 04:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PGM

....and if he turns out to be a good player, nobody is going to give a ****. Look how many guys with "production" fail. Player development is everything.

Conventional wisdom says the pick is shitty.

So far Pioli has often bucked conventional wisdom and look at the results.

Hammock Parties · 04-29-2012, 04:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KC Tattoo

Tom ****ing Brady never threw an NFL pass untill he threw his first NFL pass in the NFL. In fact no QB has thrown there first NFL pass untill they threw there first NFL pass dipshit! They all had to have there first.

This isn't relevant.

But Pioli must be incredibly smart if he already knows Ricky Stanzi is a legit backup QB who can keep the ship afloat in the event of disaster during a championship run.

Pasta Little Brioni · 04-29-2012, 04:47 PM

"Pioli only plays it close to the vest, he'd never take a risk on a player!!!!"\

"HE NEEDS TO PLAY IT SAFE. GO GUARD!!!!"

04-29-2012, 09:12 AM
Hoover Rufus Dawes Jr. Join Date: Aug 2000 Casino cash: $1168179	Pioli Deserves Props The NFL draft is a lot like Christmas morning. There is a lot of anticipation leading up to the big day, and when the time finally arrives to see what’s under the tree for us we can sometimes be a little disappointed. We all remember the Christmas that we got everything we wanted. For Chiefs fans that was last year. We got a QB, WR, DBs, and LBs. Heck we even liked the more practical gifts like a Rodney Hudson. Frankly, the 2011 draft gave us a lot to play with, and we used them. After a big year like 2011, some of you seem down. Sure we got the big present we always talk about (NT), but its’ not as cool as we thought it would be. We also ended up with some more practical gifts than we expected. Here is how I view this draft, and to be honest I’m pretty stoked about it. After having a draft like we did in 2011 where we seemed to hit on almost every pick, it wasn’t necessary for the Chiefs to snag additional pass rushers to sit behind guys like Hali and Houston. While we are still a little shallow when it comes to the safety position and could use some depth at center, the Chiefs are well positioned. In fact, I think the practicality of the 2012 Chiefs draft will allow them the flexibility in future drafts to aggressively seek out play makers to add to this team. If there is one thing that I think Pioli deserves credit for, it’s rebuilding the Chiefs offensive live. While Albert was already hear when he arrived, Pioli not only filled a glaring hole at RT when he signed Eric Winston, but his last three drafts has set the Chiefs on a course to maintain a quality offensive line for years to come. Many on this board recoiled at any suggestion that the Chiefs should use their first round pick on a lineman. After all the heated debates about the value of DeCastro, Pioli seems to agree with those who don’t want to invest first round picks on the line. Maybe instead of bitching that we didn’t have the Steelers’ draft, some of you should praise Pioli for doing exactly what you advocated for. In the last three years, Pioli has taken four offensive linemen in the 2nd and 3rd rounds of the draft. Asamoah and Hudson are now starters. Jeff Allen is going to push Ryan Lilja for a starting spot at guard, but is more likely to be seasoned for a year before finding a permanent home on the life. I know it’s sometimes hard to get excited about the offensive line, but Pioli obviously has a process that seems to be working really well. Picking back-to-back tackles isn’t as exciting as drafting guys like Justin Houston or Javier Arenas, but it feeds a system that can produce quality linemen that allows the Chiefs not use first round picks on offensive tackles, guards, or centers. It also means that the Chiefs will not be forced to commit free agent dollars on those positions either. We are lucky to have landed Winston this offseason. Without him there would probably be no Poe. I like how Pioli is building this team. While I continue to be frustrated about Cassel, finding a franchise QB is never easy. We have had three solid drafts under Pioli and we can already see the results. Yes we need to find a QB, but at least we are building a strong team while we continue to look for him.
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