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Old 07-17-2012, 11:45 AM  
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How does Dwayne Bowe rank among the elite WR's?

Sorry, didn't want this getting overlooked in the other thread. Then again, people will probably ignore it anyway - I know some of you will appreciate this.


I keep seeing people say that Dwayne Bowe isn't an elite WR. So I decided to do some research to see how he matches up statistically over his 5 years in the league.

What I found, is that statistically, Bowe is the 10th best WR of the last 5 years.

I found 9 other WR's that either had better yardage totals, better TD numbers or both. He was 10th in yardage, tied for 6th in TD's.

Here's the list. (Yardage/TD's) Bolded players have fewer or same TD's as Bowe.


Larry Fitzgerald - 6480/49

Roddy White - 6422/42

Reggie Wayne - 6234/36

Wes Welker - 6105/31

Calvin Johnson - 5872/49

Andre Johnson - 5703/35

Greg Jennings - 5539/46

Steve Smith - 5353/29

Marques Colston - 5202/40

Dwayne Bowe - 4927/36


Personally, I think that's impressive on its own.

Especially when you consider the only guy on this list who is younger is Megatron. I'd be curious to see how he matches up to the same players during each of their first 5 seasons.

Anyway, when you compare Bowe's number's to the #1 yardage and #1 TD's - he's not nearly as far off as it seems.

It comes down to 19.41 yard a game, and .16 TD's per game.

Factor in that Bowe is missing something the other 9 have - solid QB play.

After looking at this, its hard for me to say Dwayne Bowe is NOT an elite WR, considering how his numbers match up to the "elite" and never having the benefit of decent QB play.

I'm pretty confident in saying that with solid QB play, Bowe would easily make up 19.41 yards and .16 TD's a game.

Like him or not, he's an elite WR - and has shown it over his 5 years in the league.

Dude deserved elite money.

Or, tl;dr - **** him.


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Old 07-17-2012, 08:07 PM   #316
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Old 07-17-2012, 08:07 PM   #317
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Or this.

I mean, we are talking about a guy that thinks the 3rd string QB will be starting by Week 6 and winning games.
Or we could listen to you tell us all how CJ Spiller would be a good pick at 5, even though we have Charles.

"he can ay receiver, too"

It goes both ways, Sanchez.
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Old 07-17-2012, 08:08 PM   #318
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The talent gap between Julio Jones and Jon Baldwin is minuscule.

Holy Jesus, that's on par with a Win/Loss record for WR's.
Big receivers without elite speed fail all the time in the NFL.

Guys like Julio come along once every five years?
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Wrong. The Rams are behind. The Jets went to back to back championship games with a crazy QB like Sanchez. Not Cassel level crap, but not a player I want either. If the Jets drafted smart instead of signing free agents trying to get over the top, they wouldn't see themselves about to let it all slip away. They're old...
The Rams are closer. They are alot like the Lions, when Stafford wasn't healthy.
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He deserves 80 percent of Fitz's deal.
I agree. That isn't in the ballpark though is it? Bowe's asking for more than 80%
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Or we could listen to you tell us all how CJ Spiller would be a good pick at 5, even though we have Charles.

"he can ay receiver, too"

It goes both ways, Sanchez.
CJ Spiller was a beast the last half of the season.
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CJ Spiller was a beast the last half of the season.
So was Houston.



But you said that didn't matter right?
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Dude Hudson played 2 games and Bailey really didn't do too much. How do you determine that these guys are already difference makers?
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How many times was he targeted?
51 times.

112th in catch percentage.
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So was Houston.



But you said that didn't matter right?
Where did I say that about Houston?


I said 10 tackles and 1 sack is far from great or even productive.

Hudson barely played.

Baldwin 21 catches for 254 yards.

None of these guys are bust but to pretend like they are great isn't being honest.
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He had a good rookie year, but he didn't beast **** everyone in his path.
Didn't he? Probably bowl. Top 100 player in league voted by players.
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Or we could listen to you tell us all how CJ Spiller would be a good pick at 5, even though we have Charles.

"he can ay receiver, too"

It goes both ways, Sanchez.
I'm not the one saying they would have been superstars after 5 games either.
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I've lost track of what the argument is.

Aturnis asked earlier if Bowe is worth 100 mil, and I say resoundingly yes, and it isn't a debate.
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