Chiefs Press conference - Page 22

In58men · 04:40 PM

@ArrowheadAddict: Dorsey: We feel very fortunate that Alex will be a member of the Chiefs franchise for years to come.

@ArrowheadAddict: Dorsey: Since the beginning of this process, we've always had our eye on Alex.

@ArrowheadAddict: Smith: I'm ready for this.

@ArrowheadAddict: Smith: I can't say how excited I am for it. Thankful for the opportunity.

I Agree with this tweet:

@Lance_THESPOKEN: Dorsey said the reason they signed Alex is because quote "He's shown he can play football at a very high level." WHEN????? #Chiefs

THE BEST ONE OF THEM ALL:

@Lance_THESPOKEN: Yes, Andy Reid just said they're gonna "work on getting Alex Smith in the Hall of Fame." Take it as you will, I didn't make it up. #Chiefs

They're already sold on Smith, way to keep your options open dick suckers:

@APdaveskretta: Andy Reid: "I'm going to tell you every position we try to create competition ... but I'll tell you, Alex is the starting QB" #Chiefs

Let me know when he's gone, I'm done with this shit organization.

@DannyParkins: Talked to #Chiefs GM John Dorsey away from the media and he says it's absolutely fair to say they view Alex Smith as longterm answer at QB.

keg in kc · 03-13-2013, 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

You're missing the point where it actually worked.

The Chiefs haven't won a playoff game in 20 years. Before their first playoff appearance in 1986, they hadn't been in the playoffs in 15 years.

This franchise is shit covered in shit. It always has been and it always will be, until they prove otherwise.

Which is why I cannot understand the faux outrage.

That was my point.

The people that are still left, the people that love the Alex Smith move, love the Chase Daniel move, loved the Matt Cassel move, loved Brady Quinn and Ricky Stanzi and Damon Huard and Brodie Croyle and Tyler Pigpo. They're the people that would ask for more if Clark Hunt took a ****ing dump in their mouth. The people where it doesn't matter an iota what the team does, cause damnit, they're "loyal"! The fans of this team, especially the majority of the locals, don't give two shits about what's on the field. The team wouldn't lose anything if they drafted a QB at this point, because the fans that are still tailgating and in the stands and buying season tickets will choke down whatever flavor kool-aid they're handed. Whether it's Alex Smith or Alex Tanney or Geno Smith or Sean Renfree. All the same to them.

Discuss Thrower · 03-13-2013, 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Are you ****ing functionally reeruned? The Chiefs have had EVERY opportunity to draft a QB in the first or second round for DECADES.

Why are you panties in a bunch because they've chosen to pass on a bunch of stiffs in order to win back their local fan base?

And neither do you.

The fans of the Kansas City Chiefs aren't going to give the team another five years to have a ****ing winning record. Five out of the last SIX SEASONS, they've had a losing record and not only THAT, but TWO 2-14 seasons.

You have absolutely NO CLUE about economics or marketing or anything else related to owning sports franchise if you believe that the Chiefs, after 4-12, 2-14, 4-12, 2-14, etc. and so on, are going WIN OVER their fan base by drafting a QB in a down year.

JFC. Are you 15 years old?

The franchise had no problem with getting a good number of ticket holders through the door after a pretty dismal 2011 season until things went completely tits up by week six or so in 2012.

And yes, the Chiefs have been in a position to draft a QB in the first 50 picks in the draft but have chosen not to. Where has that got them though?

Similarly, what has drafting a 1st round QB got them? Well, the pretty bad Blackledge era but at least they tried to develop talent though the front office / coaching staff of the 80s is a pretty dark mark on a franchise.

But that's in the past. Now, on Jan. 5 of this year the Chiefs had two courses of action: they could have selected a FO that was determined to rebuild a franchise that already has a collection of key places in place on defense and offense by taking a crack at drafting a quarterback with the first overall selection or trying to be savvy in trading down a la Jeff Fisher into a position where they still get the player they want (in this case a QB and not a defensive linemen such as Brockers) while accumulating draft picks in 2013 or 2014.

Or, they could make a "win now" push with the players on the roster whilst mortgaging the future in trading prime draft picks to acquire a quarterback that is only marginally better than the starter on the roster, which is, in essence, the same move the previous two general manger and head coach combinations have done.

**DaneMcCloud** · 03-13-2013, 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by philfree

I was on board with Geno but the whole at least we'd have tried mantra I am not. I'm on board with getting it right. Trying and losing equals losing. So don't draft me a bust QB with the 1.1 and tell me at least you tried. Is Alex Smith getting it right? If he's not then I won't be happy. Does that matter? Not really.

I think the Chiefs will be in a position to "try" if they can at least put a respectable, solid team on the field for a few seasons.

This franchise has been nearly as inconsistent as the Atlanta Falcons before Arthur Blank and Thomas Dimitroff. They win, they lose for years on end, then win again, then lose for a better part of a decade.

If Reid and Dorsey can provide some stability and manage to right this ship, they'll draft a QB early and develop him. But you can't just take a shit franchise, draft a QB in a down year, and expect everyone to just sit around and wait for something to happen.

Look, if the Chiefs were passing on a Matt Stafford or an Andrew Luck or an RGIII or an Eli Manning or someone that nearly everyone in the known universe believes in, I'd be pissed.

But Geno Smith? Right or wrong, Geno Smith isn't going to generate fan interest, especially if, as many people have suggested, he could use a year on the bench to percolate.

Sorter · 03-13-2013, 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

I think it's awesome, personally.

I've been a fan of this franchise since the late 60's. I've sat in an empty Arrowhead Stadium wearing a parka on many occasions.

I went to "scab" games.

I was there when Marty was hired, when Barry Word ran for 200 yards and Barry Sanders ran for 100 yards and flew back to see Joe Montana on Monday Night Football in 1993.

I've been to San Diego countless times, to Denver to the Meadowlands to watch Favre beat them in a game they should have won (if only DJ had made that interception) and I'm sure I'll see them time and time again, even if they suck and lose.

But you won't see me pull my own man card and say "That's IT! They didn't take the guy I wanted so I QUIT!".

What a bunch of ****ing weeping vaginas.

Just hypothetically because Sorter had a few to many Bombay Sapphires, would you say that if we passed on Luck and RG3?

**DaneMcCloud** · 03-13-2013, 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Ponderception

Just hypothetically because Sorter had a few to many Bombay Sapphires, would you say that if we passed on Luck and RG3?

I think that someone would have assassinated Clark Hunt, Scott Pioli and Romeo Crennel.

Seriously.

I also believe that while there's a slight chance, maybe .0000001% that would have happened, even Scott Pioli was drooling over both guys last year and said something to the effect of "Draft them? I want either of them to marry my daughter!".

Sorter · 03-13-2013, 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

I think the Chiefs will be in a position to "try" if they can at least put a respectable, solid team on the field for a few seasons.

This franchise has been nearly as inconsistent as the Atlanta Falcons before Arthur Blank and Thomas Dimitroff. They win, they lose for years on end, then win again, then lose for a better part of a decade.

If Reid and Dorsey can provide some stability and manage to right this ship, they'll draft a QB early and develop him. But you can't just take a shit franchise, draft a QB in a down year, and expect everyone to just sit around and wait for something to happen.

Look, if the Chiefs were passing on a Matt Stafford or an Andrew Luck or an RGIII or an Eli Manning or someone that nearly everyone in the known universe believes in, I'd be pissed.

But Geno Smith? Right or wrong, Geno Smith isn't going to generate fan interest, especially if, as many people have suggested, he could use a year on the bench to percolate.

Nvm, your ninja skills are too great for the gifmaster.

I would argue that Geno would generate fan interest, purely form being the 1st overall pick and the calamity that would occur as well as the (totally stereotyping here) interest black, casual fansl

tooge · 03-13-2013, 09:01 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

I think it's awesome, personally.

I've been a fan of this franchise since the late 60's. I've sat in an empty Arrowhead Stadium wearing a parka on many occasions.

I went to "scab" games.

I was there when Marty was hired, when Barry Word ran for 200 yards and Barry Sanders ran for 100 yards and flew back to see Joe Montana on Monday Night Football in 1993.

I've been to San Diego countless times, to Denver to the Meadowlands to watch Favre beat them in a game they should have won (if only DJ had made that interception) and I'm sure I'll see them time and time again, even if they suck and lose.

But you won't see me pull my own man card and say "That's IT! They didn't take the guy I wanted so I QUIT!".

What a bunch of ****ing weeping vaginas.

Mods, can we change the name to "chicken ranch lounge" please

Sorter · 03-13-2013, 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

I think that someone would have assassinated Clark Hunt, Scott ***** and Romeo Crennel.

Seriously.

I also believe that while there's a slight chance, maybe .0000001% that would have happened, even Scott ***** was drooling over both guys last year and said something to the effect of "Draft them? I want either of them to marry my daughter!".

That't probably a bit too far for me but I have yet to procreate.

**DaneMcCloud** · 03-13-2013, 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Ponderception

That't probably a bit too far for me but I have yet to procreate.

The bottom line is that one of those guys would have undoubtedly been a Chief.

ChiefsCountry · 03-13-2013, 09:07 PM

Shit the Chiefs would have drafted Matt Kalil.

keg in kc · 03-13-2013, 09:08 PM

Geno doesn't even need to be part of the discussion. The problem isn't that they aren't going to select him, the problem is that they traded for Alex Smith and they're making him "the guy". Don't take a QB this year, that's fine. But don't throw the next 5 years in the crapper while you're doing it, which is what this trade does. It's not an issue with drafting a QB in 2013 with him here now, it's an issue of not drafting a QB at all until he's gone. Not in 2013, or 2014, or 2015. At least for me, the disappointment is the fact that they never learn, and make this move literally over and over and over again and then act surprised when they don't get different results.

But it's certainly indicative of the franchise. I am disappointed, but I'm not surprised in the least. And in fact, to bring the other Smith back into it, despite being one of the bigger Geno fans here, I've also said all along he'd never be drafted as a Chief.

Sorter · 03-13-2013, 09:09 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

The bottom line is that one of those guys would have undoubtedly been a Chief.

Part of me still thinks Pioli would have traded down.

Probably due to his inability to do anything worthwhile in the 1st round sans Berry.

Discuss Thrower · 03-13-2013, 09:09 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry

Shit the Chiefs would have drafted Matt Kalil.

No love for Trent Richardson, huh?

I mean, JC was an agility rusher coming back from an ACL tear..

O.city · 03-13-2013, 09:10 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

I think it's awesome, personally.

I've been a fan of this franchise since the late 60's. I've sat in an empty Arrowhead Stadium wearing a parka on many occasions.

I went to "scab" games.

I was there when Marty was hired, when Barry Word ran for 200 yards and Barry Sanders ran for 100 yards and flew back to see Joe Montana on Monday Night Football in 1993.

I've been to San Diego countless times, to Denver to the Meadowlands to watch Favre beat them in a game they should have won (if only DJ had made that interception) and I'm sure I'll see them time and time again, even if they suck and lose.

But you won't see me pull my own man card and say "That's IT! They didn't take the guy I wanted so I QUIT!".

What a bunch of ****ing weeping vaginas.

You also live in LA, I doubt you have season tickets.

I don't blame someone not wanting to spend thousands of dollars to take themselves and their family to games.

I will personally ahve season tickets when I finally have the DR in front of my name, (mainly so I can have a reason to come back to KC and hang out with d school guys and call it a business trip).

Now if someone wants to not watch games on TV because the team didn't do what they wanted them to do, yeah that might be a little silly. I get it, I won't do it, but I get it.

**DaneMcCloud** · 03-13-2013, 09:10 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry

Shit the Chiefs would have drafted Matt Kalil.

Pioli was literally spooging in the press about RGIII and Luck.

Even though he was a complete cluster**** as a GM, I have to give the man the benefit of the doubt.

No one is that stupid.

03-13-2013, 04:04 PM
In58men I didn’t say mud, I said crud. Join Date: Jan 2012 Casino cash: $-1561974	Press conference @ArrowheadAddict: Dorsey: We feel very fortunate that Alex will be a member of the Chiefs franchise for years to come. @ArrowheadAddict: Dorsey: Since the beginning of this process, we've always had our eye on Alex. @ArrowheadAddict: Smith: I'm ready for this. @ArrowheadAddict: Smith: I can't say how excited I am for it. Thankful for the opportunity. I Agree with this tweet: @Lance_THESPOKEN: Dorsey said the reason they signed Alex is because quote "He's shown he can play football at a very high level." WHEN????? #Chiefs THE BEST ONE OF THEM ALL: @Lance_THESPOKEN: Yes, Andy Reid just said they're gonna "work on getting Alex Smith in the Hall of Fame." Take it as you will, I didn't make it up. #Chiefs They're already sold on Smith, way to keep your options open dick suckers: @APdaveskretta: Andy Reid: "I'm going to tell you every position we try to create competition ... but I'll tell you, Alex is the starting QB" #Chiefs Let me know when he's gone, I'm done with this shit organization. @DannyParkins: Talked to #Chiefs GM John Dorsey away from the media and he says it's absolutely fair to say they view Alex Smith as longterm answer at QB. Last edited by In58men; 03-13-2013 at 04:40 PM..
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keg in kc oxymoron Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: OP/KC/Whatever Casino cash: $9556299	Geno doesn't even need to be part of the discussion. The problem isn't that they aren't going to select him, the problem is that they traded for Alex Smith and they're making him "the guy". Don't take a QB this year, that's fine. But don't throw the next 5 years in the crapper while you're doing it, which is what this trade does. It's not an issue with drafting a QB in 2013 with him here now, it's an issue of not drafting a QB at all until he's gone. Not in 2013, or 2014, or 2015. At least for me, the disappointment is the fact that they never learn, and make this move literally over and over and over again and then act surprised when they don't get different results. But it's certainly indicative of the franchise. I am disappointed, but I'm not surprised in the least. And in fact, to bring the other Smith back into it, despite being one of the bigger Geno fans here, I've also said all along he'd never be drafted as a Chief.
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