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Coogs · 08:16 PM

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QB Alex Smith tells NFL Total Access that Chiefs aren't running "cookie-cutter" offense and it isn't the same as what coach Andy Reid ran with Eagles and Packers. Catch the entire interview tonight at 7PM ET on NFL Total Access.

O.city · 07-20-2013, 02:25 PM

Smith can't be the guy he was the last two years. He's in a completely different system that likely won't let him be just that.

He'll either be really good, or bad. I don't think there's much chance he'll be just "mediocre". Typically, Andy Reid offenses don't allow QB's to just get by without much notice, like Cassel did for the most part in 2010.

We'll find out soon enough about Alex Smith. There's no hiding him here.

Which, IMO, is a good thing. I also don't think this front office will have any problems about moving on from him when/if he isn't what they want him to be.

O.city · 07-20-2013, 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city

Smith can't be the guy he was the last two years. He's in a completely different system that likely won't let him be just that.

He'll either be really good, or bad. I don't think there's much chance he'll be just "mediocre". Typically, Andy Reid offenses don't allow QB's to just get by without much notice, like Cassel did for the most part in 2010.

We'll find out soon enough about Alex Smith. There's no hiding him here.

Which, IMO, is a good thing. I also don't think this front office will have any problems about moving on from him when/if he isn't what they want him to be.

And it's for this reason why I'm not that keen on comparing this to the Cassel situation.

There won't be any learning curve, adjustment period etc. It's on Smith from day 1, sink or swim.

duncan_idaho · 07-20-2013, 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz

I think it's almost a lock that he gets extended because Reid and Dorsey brought him in because they actually valued what Alex Smith has been the last two years. They looked at those results and thought, "That's good enough."

This should scare the **** out of everyone.

What, you don't like being "good enough" at the most important position on the field?

O.city · 07-20-2013, 02:29 PM

I don't think they thought "thats good enough", I think (hope) they thought, "that will do for now".

**DeezNutz** · 07-20-2013, 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho

What, you don't like being "good enough" at the most important position on the field?

I was born in the KC area, so mediocrity should be my warm, safe place, but, alas, apparently I've been away long enough to develop different preferences.

**Ming the Merciless** · 07-20-2013, 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz

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This should scare the **** out of everyone.

BOOM. Logic Bomb!

You SHOULD be scared....

Theres 2 possibilities here....

1)They nail it, and this plan works flawlessly (either ALex Smith becomes our QBOTF or we somehow use him to transition into one within 2 seasons, while maintaining the best parts of our team, without blowing it up and starting over.....) This will prove many wrong, and prove Reid, Dorsey and company geniouses...(Executive of the decade!)

2) They miss wildly on this one and it ripples through and ****s up our team for another 5 years of no playoff wins , and this regime is a bust.

Theres really not much middle ground because they didnt GIVE themselves any middle ground with this "win now with ALex Smith" type of all-in poker move.

**DeezNutz** · 07-20-2013, 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city

I don't think they thought "thats good enough", I think (hope) they thought, "that will do for now".

While this is the optimistic view, two second-rounders state (strongly) otherwise.

O.city · 07-20-2013, 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz

While this is the optimistic view, two second-rounders state (strongly) otherwise.

I probably agree.

However, again, I don't think they really think "thats good enough". I'd say they probably think he can be better here.

History says otherwise, but they're much more intelligent in terms of football (hopefully) than I am. So we'll see.

chiefzilla1501 · 07-20-2013, 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Pawnmower

BOOM. Logic Bomb!

You SHOULD be scared....

Theres 2 possibilities here....

1)They nail it, and this plan works flawlessly (either ALex Smith becomes our QBOTF or we somehow use him to transition into one within 2 seasons, while maintaining the best parts of our team, without blowing it up and starting over.....) This will prove many wrong, and prove Reid, Dorsey and company geniouses...(Executive of the decade!)

2) They miss wildly on this one and it ripples through and ****s up our team for another 5 years of no playoff wins , and this regime is a bust.

Theres really not much middle ground because they didnt GIVE themselves any middle ground with this "win now with ALex Smith" type of all-in poker move.

I don't understand. Why wouldn't there be any middle ground?

Why are people convinced that Reid and Dorsey, two guys who have brought in lots of QBs, wouldn't keep trying to bring in new QBs? Smith doesn't have a long-term deal. And the offense they're likely migrating to will probably be very friendly to college QBs.

**DeezNutz** · 07-20-2013, 02:44 PM

If this is the price they'll pay for a stopgap, the new regime demonstrates a reckless disregard for draft value.

nychief · 07-20-2013, 02:53 PM

the hand wringing over the comp for AS is silly at this point... he hasnt been extended... he was the best QB available and we had to start some one. The all or nothing point of view is foolish.

at this point, we might want to just, ya know, see how this works out.

chiefzilla1501 · 07-20-2013, 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz

If this is the price they'll pay for a stopgap, the new regime demonstrates a reckless disregard for draft value.

Completely disagree.

This team HAS to start winning again. They have to get Arrowhead loud again. That will do wonders for recruiting new players and convincing their good players to stay. I get the feeling that Clark Hunt told Dorsey and Reid there is no 5-year plan. It has to start happening now.

And if Reid is serious about really exploring the spread and/or a read option and/or the Pistol, Smith allows Reid to maybe become an innovator. The amount Reid / Pederson can learn from tinkering this year will be very valuable.

Two 2nd round picks is high for a QB like Smith. But people are overreacting to how much we lost from it. If the Chiefs end up with a legit franchise QB within 3 years, those picks won't matter.

**ShortRoundChief** · 07-20-2013, 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz

If this is the price they'll pay for a stopgap, the new regime demonstrates a reckless disregard for draft value.

If that is the case then you can pin that loss on SOC as well as their wins. What happened last year was a demonstration about how this fan base is win now or we'll get the pitchforks. They went after the best option to win now because that's what the fans flying the ****ing banners wanted.

Who knows if that is the plan or they think AS is the answer. I do know this: Unlike the previous regime this qb hasn't been extended without playing a snap.

Hammock Parties · 07-20-2013, 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by J Diddy

They went after the best option to win now because that's what the fans flying the ****ing banners wanted.

No it's not.

**ShortRoundChief** · 07-20-2013, 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Alex Smith HATER

No it's not.

I would disagree.

It may have not been printed on the banners but sick of losing is what fueled the fire. If you can't see that you're naive.

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O.city In Search of a Life Join Date: Jul 2009 Casino cash: $-765936	Smith can't be the guy he was the last two years. He's in a completely different system that likely won't let him be just that. He'll either be really good, or bad. I don't think there's much chance he'll be just "mediocre". Typically, Andy Reid offenses don't allow QB's to just get by without much notice, like Cassel did for the most part in 2010. We'll find out soon enough about Alex Smith. There's no hiding him here. Which, IMO, is a good thing. I also don't think this front office will have any problems about moving on from him when/if he isn't what they want him to be.
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nychief MVP Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: NYC Casino cash: $5339466	the hand wringing over the comp for AS is silly at this point... he hasnt been extended... he was the best QB available and we had to start some one. The all or nothing point of view is foolish. at this point, we might want to just, ya know, see how this works out. __________________ Good Time Charlie, Uncle Doobie and the Great Frisco Freakout.
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