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Old 12-11-2013, 10:10 PM  
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Does Alex Smith deserve a extension after this season?
Does he deserve a extension to be our QB long term or do we take a chance on somebody else.
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Old 12-15-2013, 07:47 PM   #316
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and Jamaal is our offense like any other year
and, that's BAD?

I have yet to ever understand why Charles being the best player on the planet is such a bad thing. Why shouldn't the Chiefs get the ball in his hands as much as possible?
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Old 12-15-2013, 07:48 PM   #317
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and Jamaal is our offense like any other year
JC did make AS look elite today. 3 of those TD's were a combination of JC owning ass, and the Oakland Raid sucking nuts. AS kind of just 'threw' the short pass, and allowed JC to make it happen. JC's fourth receiving TD, AS had a lot to with that one no doubt though.
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Old 12-15-2013, 07:50 PM   #318
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Old 12-15-2013, 07:50 PM   #319
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JC did make AS look elite today. 3 of those TD's were a combination of JC owning ass, and the Oakland Raid sucking nuts. AS kind of just 'threw' the short pass, and allowed JC to make it happen. JC's fourth receiving TD, AS had a lot to with that one no doubt though.
that is stretching it, because Charles has been the constant badass even before Alex.
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Old 12-15-2013, 07:51 PM   #320
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Bowe used to be pretty good, too. I still would love to see his numbers if he had played with Brees, or Manning or a high TD guy. Bowe made a pretty solid name for himself in the dark days (before you were a Chiefs fan) when we had Cassel and the like.
WTF?

Bowe is in the prime of his career. He's never had great hands or was a precise route runner - two things required in a West Coast offensive system. He was allowed to free lance a lot more and it provided some highlight reel catches from time to time. But he's not elite. Not even close.

And any guy on the receiving end of Brady, Manning or Brees is going to have elevated TD numbers. Your mom would have high TD numbers with Brady throwing to her.

Are you ****ing high right now?
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Old 12-15-2013, 07:51 PM   #321
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that is stretching it, because Charles has been the constant badass even before Alex.
Disagree.

If Alex Smith leads him too much on that pass, he gets destroyed.

Now, Alex does not make a ton of throws well, but the WHEEL, that is his bread and butter.

The throw was as important as the catch and run.
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Old 12-15-2013, 07:52 PM   #322
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and Jamaal is our offense like any other year
no doubt that Charles is our key piece on offense but Alex Smith hasn't fallen apart without elite talent surrounding him like he suggested.

2,800 passing, 380 rushing, 60% completion

all after playing martyball for 8/9 games to start the season


everyone wants an elite QB, but we could do a lot worse than Alex Smith while waiting to find ours.
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So, the team stands 11-3, tied with the best record in the NFL and has clinched a playoff berth with two games remaining in the season.

What elite talent do we have surrounding Smith that has led the team to this record? (Now, I would hate to bring up the oft-stated opinion that the QB is the most important position on the field and determines the overall success of the team more often than not, but...)

Charles is elite. Other than that, who do we have?
We have not won anything yet except a bunch of games. Games that when our offense was still vanilla and out of sync. Games that were won by the defense against bad teams or teams lacking quality QB's, games won by a weak schedule.

Let's not anoint someone that has not produced a 300 yard passing game this season. Let's not anoint someone that is not called upon many times over to win us a game when the situation has not been called upon that often.

Alex has not warranted an extensions yet. He has played well in year # 1 when we do not have that elite talent around him, games we have won because of other circumstances.

Alex is what I knew he was, a good QB, not bad, not elite.
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that is stretching it, because Charles has been the constant badass even before Alex.
I agree with this. Not sure what kind of response you want me to give?
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no doubt that Charles is our key piece on offense but Alex Smith hasn't fallen apart without elite talent surrounding him like he suggested.

2,800 passing, 380 rushing, 60% completion

all after playing martyball for 8/9 games to start the season


everyone wants an elite QB, but we could do a lot worse than Alex Smith while waiting to find ours.
hmmm, more like 3100 yards. that wasn't including todays.
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no doubt that Charles is our key piece on offense but Alex Smith hasn't fallen apart without elite talent surrounding him like he suggested.

2,800 passing, 380 rushing, 60% completion

all after playing martyball for 8/9 games to start the season


everyone wants an elite QB, but we could do a lot worse than Alex Smith while waiting to find ours.
As much as I hate to agree...but this is correct.
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no doubt that Charles is our key piece on offense but Alex Smith hasn't fallen apart without elite talent surrounding him like he suggested.

2,800 passing, 380 rushing, 60% completion

all after playing martyball for 8/9 games to start the season


everyone wants an elite QB, but we could do a lot worse than Alex Smith while waiting to find ours.
We also haven't played a great pass defense either
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Smith is gaining confidence. Reid is so good at getting good play from the position.

I wish we could have seen more of those HB screens earlier in the year.
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and, that's BAD?

I have yet to ever understand why Charles being the best player on the planet is such a bad thing. Why shouldn't the Chiefs get the ball in his hands as much as possible?
That Mike Jordan. Shoots too much, always wanting the ball. :what:
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