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Yes, he offers us a real shot at a Championship 29 21.80%
No, Alex is the man 82 61.65%
Doesn't matter ,either way we suck 9 6.77%
I would like to order a few bags of boar #1725 13 9.77%
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Old 11-05-2016, 05:49 PM  
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Do you Hope Foles Takes over the QB position ?
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Old 11-07-2016, 06:31 PM   #316
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If you weren't being completely disingenuous right now, you'd realize that the people that make every excuse under the sun for Alex sounds exactly the same. Just on the other side.

If "all he does is win" then the losses are on him too.

Anyone that is remotely rational knows the defense carries this team.
I'm not being disingenuous at all.

Alex Smith isn't a Hall of Fame QB. Period.

But the story doesn't end there because all people like yourself do is denigrate his performances, good or bad, and compare him to Brady, Brees, Rodgers and even Rivers.

He's none of those guys and never will be.

He IS, however, a guy that can win a shit ton of games and with just a little luck (i.e., health) can push a team to the Super Bowl.
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Old 11-07-2016, 06:32 PM   #317
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Well apparently, Sacc, when the Chiefs lose, it's Alex Smith's fault.

When the Chiefs win, it's because of the defense, special teams, the ground game and Reid's play calling.

Duh.
If you watch the games that's pretty accurate many many times.
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Old 11-07-2016, 06:33 PM   #318
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I'm not being disingenuous at all.

Alex Smith isn't a Hall of Fame QB. Period.

But the story doesn't end there because all people like yourself do is denigrate his performances, good or bad, and compare him to Brady, Brees, Rodgers and even Rivers.

He's none of those guys and never will be.

He IS, however, a guy that can win a shit ton of games and with just a little luck (i.e., health) can push a team to the Super Bowl.
He can win a ton of games on the back of a great defense.

Otherwise?

Not so much.
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Old 11-07-2016, 06:37 PM   #319
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Sorry, but in this era of football - 19 points (OK) and 187 yards passing (TERRIBLE) doesn't cut it when it matters. JMO.
19 points is most likely not enough to win games. As I pointed out, the Chiefs won 5 and lost 12 when they scored 19 or less.

But to be fair, half of those losses occurred in 2014, when the Chiefs had shit at WR. Dwayne Bowe was a fat pig, Donnie Avery was invisible and injured most of the year, just like Anthony Fasano. It's pretty amazing that they were able to win 9 games that season.

Take a look around the league. When offensive lines struggle, running backs struggle and wide receivers struggle, teams, regardless if they're the Ravens or 49ers or Cardinals or the Colts, a long playoff push is unlikely.

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This team goes as far as the defense carries them.
Just like Denver and Carolina last year. And the same can be said for every team except for New England.
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Old 11-07-2016, 06:39 PM   #320
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He can win a ton of games on the back of a great defense.

Otherwise?

Not so much.
So, it didn't matter in 2014 that the starting LG was out for the year in Week 1, Avery and Bowe were invisible, as was Fasano. Kelce was just getting up to speed and the offensive line was a mess?

Houston had 22 sacks that year, so why didn't the Chiefs make the playoffs?
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Old 11-07-2016, 06:43 PM   #321
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A ****ing 5-time (or more) mult has been patient WITH ME.

That's ****ing comedy gold.

Thank you for putting me on your ignore list, now I don't have to see you respond to every post of mind with mindless drivel.

Seriously, Bob. I really do appreciate it.

About as much as your Uncle appreciated the hummers.
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Old 11-07-2016, 06:43 PM   #322
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@barleyhop Nick Foles QBR (17.5) was worse than Alex Smith has had in all but 1 of his last 22 games (including playoffs).
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Old 11-07-2016, 06:45 PM   #323
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If you weren't being completely disingenuous right now, you'd realize that the people that make every excuse under the sun for Alex sounds exactly the same. Just on the other side.
Excuse for what? What has he done that needs to be excused?
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Old 11-07-2016, 06:47 PM   #324
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If you watch the games that's pretty accurate many many times.
The Chiefs are 15-2 in Smith's last 17 games.

The loss in Houston can be squarely attributed to the backup guards, who failed to pass protect or open lanes for Ware, hence their weak offensive output.

Pittsburgh was a cluster**** on all levels.
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Old 11-07-2016, 07:01 PM   #325
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Just like Denver and Carolina last year. And the same can be said for every team except for New England.
Riiiiiight. The MVP of the entire NFL who accounted for 4,400+ yards and FORTY FIVE touchdowns was carried by the Panthers defense.

The lengths at which Alex fans go to discredit other QBs in effort to elevate Alex is absolutely insane.
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Old 11-07-2016, 07:27 PM   #326
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The Chiefs have had less than 19 offensive points and less than 187 passing yards in 25% of Alex Smith’s starts in Kansas City (13 games).

In this era of football, that's not good.
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I'm not being disingenuous at all.

Alex Smith isn't a Hall of Fame QB. Period.

But the story doesn't end there because all people like yourself do is denigrate his performances, good or bad, and compare him to Brady, Brees, Rodgers and even Rivers.

He's none of those guys and never will be.

He IS, however, a guy that can win a shit ton of games and with just a little luck (i.e., health) can push a team to the Super Bowl.
This is what i am talking about.
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Old 11-07-2016, 08:11 PM   #329
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Smith is always carried by a good defense you can see what type of QB he was with a trash defense under singletary and Nolan that's why fans were glad to chase him out of town when kap took over.
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Smith is always carried by a good defense you can see what type of QB he was with a trash defense under singletary and Nolan that's why fans were glad to chase him out of town when kap took over.
Nearly every QB, including HOFers, is "carried" by a good to great defense.

To think otherwise is naive.
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