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Old 03-22-2024, 11:16 PM   #1
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Old 03-22-2024, 11:19 PM   #2
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Feels like we lost our leverage when he declared he wants to be the highest paid CB in the league, teams knew we couldn't pay him what he wanted.
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Old 03-22-2024, 11:42 PM   #3
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Feels like we lost our leverage when he declared he wants to be the highest paid CB in the league, teams knew we couldn't pay him what he wanted.
It’s not just that. I think the entire league will not make fair market deals with KC at this point. It puts handcuffs on the Chiefs every year. KC is forced to let guys walk or give them away for joke level compensation.
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It’s not just that. I think the entire league will not make fair market deals with KC at this point. It puts handcuffs on the Chiefs every year. KC is forced to let guys walk or give them away for joke level compensation.

Think about you're saying for a moment. Do you believe a GM is going to compromise his job/organization in order to blackball the Chiefs? Cmon dude.
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Old 03-23-2024, 12:30 AM   #5
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Think about you're saying for a moment. Do you believe a GM is going to compromise his job/organization in order to blackball the Chiefs? Cmon dude.
I can think of a number of teams where the GM’s #1 job is blackballing the Chiefs.
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Old 03-23-2024, 01:15 AM   #6
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One possibility for the Chiefs shipping a great player for mediocre compensation may be that Hunt doesn’t want to write another big check this offseason. The cap is one part of the equation but dollars are dollars. Sure, Clark has a lot of money and could obviously afford it but that doesn’t mean he wants to spend more after giving Jones and Mahomes lump sum payments. And knowing he’ll have big payments coming for Creed and Bolton next season.

This is total speculation but is it possible Hunt told Veach he wasn’t going to write checks for both Jones and Sneed and Veach only had so many 2024 dollars to spend?

Just trying to come up with a reason to explain this move. I have always thought that you get so few opportunities to hold an all-star team together you should just go for it, but all we can hope for now is that the offense returns to form and the defense stays a top 10 unit and someone else can make the plays we’ve counted on Sneed to make.
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It’s not just that. I think the entire league will not make fair market deals with KC at this point. It puts handcuffs on the Chiefs every year. KC is forced to let guys walk or give them away for joke level compensation.
**** that... Maybe divisional rivals. Sneed was a perfect fit for Detroit who had picks and cap to make the trade. I highly doubt Detroit was thinking, "shit, we can't trade with the Chiefs, we may give them something that will beat us in the first Superbowl we would ever play." No one wanted to pay Sneed the average of $20m per, with over $50m Guaranteed and give up a 2nd.
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Old 03-23-2024, 07:10 AM   #8
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**** that... Maybe divisional rivals. Sneed was a perfect fit for Detroit who had picks and cap to make the trade. I highly doubt Detroit was thinking, "shit, we can't trade with the Chiefs, we may give them something that will beat us in the first Superbowl we would ever play." No one wanted to pay Sneed the average of $20m per, with over $50m Guaranteed and give up a 2nd.
No, the deal was no team wanted to pay his $20+ AND trade his value in draft picks. Most GM's will do one or the other but Sneed is 27/28 and has had knee issues in the past. If some team was getting a deal on the money or the draft picks this would have gone differently.
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Old 03-23-2024, 07:22 AM   #9
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No, the deal was no team wanted to pay his $20+ AND trade his value in draft picks. Most GM's will do one or the other but Sneed is 27/28 and has had knee issues in the past. If some team was getting a deal on the money or the draft picks this would have gone differently.
I think we are saying the same thing. Others saying the teams won't trade with the Chiefs because of our success may be true for some teams, but not other teams, like the Lions. The Lions looked at it like you and I stated, and decided not to trade for Sneed, not because they were scared of giving the Chiefs and advantage.
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Would have been better to get this trade done on March 12th to have the $20 million cap space available to use at the start of free agency…

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Would have been better to get this trade done on March 12th to have the $20 million cap space available to use at the start of free agency…

Since when has KC signed more than one big name at the beginning of free agency? They got Hollywood, and they re-signed Jones. That was your big ticket items.

From there, it was always going to be bargain shopping.
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Would have been better to get this trade done on March 12th to have the $20 million cap space available to use at the start of free agency…

... You don't think Veach would have maneuvered to get someone they wanted... This narrative is complete BS.
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Would have been better to get this trade done on March 12th to have the $20 million cap space available to use at the start of free agency…

Wut? This makes no sense at all. So this was the best and basically only offer they've had on sneed this whole time? So the past week has been just praying someone came and beat the Titans offer before they settled on that trade? That's the only way this timeline makes any kind of sense.
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Would have been better to get this trade done on March 12th to have the $20 million cap space available to use at the start of free agency…

Sooo...BV should learn to Time-Travel? Understanding the market actually takes "time in the market". Was there a level of collusion against the Chiefs? Maybe. Were NFL "experts" and talking heads believing Sneed would return a 1st? A few. Were many assuming he would return a 2nd and 4th/5th? Yes. Did any teams end up offering a 2nd? Doesn't appear so. It's safe to say BV and most plugged-in to the NFL were surprised at the return. MOve on, take the 3rd and the 20 milll and fix the cracks.
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Sooo...BV should learn to Time-Travel? Understanding the market actually takes "time in the market". Was there a level of collusion against the Chiefs? Maybe. Were NFL "experts" and talking heads believing Sneed would return a 1st? A few. Were many assuming he would return a 2nd and 4th/5th? Yes. Did any teams end up offering a 2nd? Doesn't appear so. It's safe to say BV and most plugged-in to the NFL were surprised at the return. MOve on, take the 3rd and the 20 milll and fix the cracks.
Yep, not that hard. This will make us a better team, but not quite as good at CB, but we have decent depth there.
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