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Old 11-02-2015, 05:00 PM  
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*** Official 2016 Royals Offseason Repository ***



Well, folks, it has happened. The Royals stand triumphant, atop the heap of MLB.

In this thread, we'll track the action as Dayton Moore continues The Process and attempts to defend the long-awaited title.

Before we get to the meet of it, let's take a minute to reflect ... and say "I'm Sorry" to Dayton Moore.

We gave you hell. Many of us called for your head. But you were right. You got it done. Congratulations. Mea culpa.

Now, let's talk about the offseason:

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The Royals will have a few priorities: Corner OF (x2) and 1 SP, IMO. The rest of the core is solid and will need little tweaking. Looking at the increase in ticket sales, merchandising, concessions, parking, etc., I think it's fair to assume the Royals GROSSED $100 million more this season, or close to it. That gives Glass and Dayton Moore much more flexibility on payroll for 2016 (hopefully).

First order of business will be gauging the Alex Gordon market. If he can be resigned for 4-5 years at around $75-80 million total, it would be hard for KC to pass on that. He's still an above-average corner OF bat, and the Royals will need to bring in at least one proven guy to play in a corner if Gordon walks... and the whole market looks a lot like Alex - guys in their early 30s looking for huge, final contracts.

Second order of business: Make a decision on Zobrist. It sounds like KC will pursue him aggressively. At 34, he's at risk of declining in a big way after a few years. If they could find someone to take on Omar Infante for eating 1/2 of his deal, that would be a great start to things.

If they decide not to spend on Zobrist, KC will need to cobble together some sort of plan for 2B/RF that involves some cheaper options like Orlando, Colon, Dyson, etc.

I could see them deciding his ability to provide great insurance at either 2B or in RF is worth the risk.

Third order of business: Add depth to the rotation with a FA SP. Duffy, Ventura, Volquez and Medlen are locks for 4 spots, it seems. Kyle Zimmer may finally be ready to make a MLB impact, but his innings will be limited. That means KC needs insurance. Will it kill two birds with one stone (and insure against Duffy/Ventura regression) by signing a more top-tier guy? Or does Moore look to Chris Young/someone like him for this depth?

Personally, I think Mike Leake would be a great fit with KC's defense and park, and I know Moore has long coveted him. He's still young - just 28 - and has succeeded in bandbox Cincinnati for years.

Ian Kennedy, Mat Latos, Marco Estrada, and Justin Masterson are some other names that may pique interest (a little further down the list).

Other than that, I don't think KC makes any major moves. Greg Holland will be interesting to observe, as they have one more year of control of him, and he will obviously miss all of that season. I wouldn't be surprised to see a pre-arbitration deal that pays him something like $15 million over the next two seasons, and I wouldn't be surprised to see him turned loose, period.

The bullpen will rest upon Wade Davis/Herrera/Hochevar, filling in pieces around them. Bringing Madson back wouldn't be a surprise, but he could get a big deal from another team that is willing to pay him as their top setup guy or even their closer.

I think the biggest prospects to watch in Spring Training will be:

1) Kyle Zimmer. The hype has built, died down, built again, etc. If he's healthy, he's filthy and a potential ToR arm. But what does he look like in ST, and how many innings can you reasonably expect from him if he does earn a rotation spot? It seems like 120-130 innings would be his limit unless they really stretch (or unless he has a lot of hidden innings from simulated games/extended spring training, which might push him to 150-160).

Having another cheap, home-grown pitcher would be a significant boon for this team as it tries to extend the competitive window (and potentially give KC a strong 1-2 to build its rotation around in Zimmer and Ventura)

2) Bubba Starling. I'm trying to remain skeptical, but I like what I hear about Bubba from this season, and the performance has picked up. If KC does not sign someone to fill the RF slot, I think that's a strong indication KC's front office believes Starling will be ready to contribute in 2016.

Dayton Moore has long said that when Starling's light flips on, it will happen quickly and burn brightly. Time will tell.

After his STRONG Arizona Fall League Performance, he shot up my prospect chart.

3) Miguel Almonte. His late-season stint out of the KC bullpen went poorly, but Almonte has a plus-plus changeup, a good fastball, and a decent curve ball. He may be the dark horse in the rotation competition, and unlike Zimmer, he's set up to pitch a full 180 inning season.

4) RA Mondesi. The only player to debut in the MLB World Series has incredible tools. He still needs to refine his game, but again... he may be KC's best cheap, plus alternative at a key position (2B). His defense would be a boon from Day 1, but he needs seasoning with the bat before he's asked to hold down 2B full time.

And, as always, here are the Prospects:

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Old 03-01-2016, 12:55 PM   #3286
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We got Gordon and Salvy locked up now for the future.

Here is how I would rank the next class in importance of getting signed/value:
1. Hosmer
2. Moose
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3. Cain
4. Esky
I personally feel like Cain and Moose are rather interchangeable. Cain has the potential to age like Torri Hunter due to his late development as a player.
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Old 03-01-2016, 12:56 PM   #3287
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Typically, do players like LoCain see a sharp drop-off related to age?

Personally, if there were one player we were planning on keeping between Hosmer, Moustakas, Escobar, and Cain, I would prefer Cain.
Your best WAR years are usually between age 28 and 32. Cain will be 31/32 when he hits the market and is injury prone. Hosmer would be 28. Hosmer could potentially be a player looking at two big pay days. If you are keeping one and hypothetically they stay, Hosmer would be the one by far.
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Old 03-01-2016, 12:56 PM   #3288
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I've long expected them to leave as free agents, with maybe an outside chance at keeping Moustakas.

Because the team keeps surprising me, I think I have adjusted the likelihood of them staying in KC up a few notches.

Keeping Perez, Hosmer, and Moustakas together for five more years (and incorporating younger players at the positions that require major athleticism - CF and SS) doesn't seem impossible at this point.
So you're ok with letting Cain walk?
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Old 03-01-2016, 12:59 PM   #3289
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Rany articulates what a lot of Royals fans probably felt in this tweet.


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Old 03-01-2016, 01:00 PM   #3290
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So you're ok with letting Cain walk?
Cain is a pretty easy one to let walk. Age, injury issues, and his game is based on his legs.
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Old 03-01-2016, 01:01 PM   #3291
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Does Rany feel bad about Outfante's deal?
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Old 03-01-2016, 01:06 PM   #3292
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Cain is a pretty easy one to let walk. Age, injury issues, and his game is based on his legs.
His offensive production in 2015 was not leg-based.
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Old 03-01-2016, 01:07 PM   #3293
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I predict Outfante's going to be completely healed and bounce back this season. He's a proud guy. He doesn't want to go out as a giant anchor around the team's neck.
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Old 03-01-2016, 01:08 PM   #3294
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What great news... this will go over well in the clubhouse.

The Royals are built to be a dynasty. I ****ing love Dayton Moore.
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Old 03-01-2016, 01:27 PM   #3296
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His offensive production in 2015 was not leg-based.
Cain's entire game is built around speed and athleticism. We will have gotten his best WAR years for cheap. Thanks for the memories and let somebody else pay for his down years.
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We got Gordon and Salvy locked up now for the future.

Here is how I would rank the next class in importance of getting signed/value:
1. Hosmer
2. Moose
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4. Esky
Why is Moose so important?
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Why is Moose so important?
He's a pretty average player right now.

Not sure why people think different.
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Old 03-01-2016, 01:43 PM   #3299
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Moose was 4.4 in WAR last year, second on the team. He is 27. Third isn't exactly stacked in our minor league system. He is going to be in the 2 hole again this year.
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