***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[KCUnited]

Looking forward to getting Frank Boal's take on all this

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by Bowser

All I can think of when I see that is how many people have pissed in there, lol.

Dude I don't get into crowded areas of water save maybe the ocean. Don't really like ever getting in the lake and sure as **** would never get in a pool full of drunk, idiots.

[Donger]

Originally Posted by jdubya

Not according to my county and state. It was always about "flattening the curve" so as to not overwhelm medical facilities all at the same time. The goal posts began moving after the first 2 weeks. Kids were only going to miss Up to 2 weeks of school max.........

I don't know what your county or state said. I do know what Dr. Fauci said.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by dirk digler

Exactly but Pete doesn't understand that. Combo of STD, piss and cornovirus and it will create some new mutant virus lol

Why do you feel the need to put words in my mouth and the opine on something I never said?

[staylor26]

Originally Posted by Donger

If only there was a way to get the R0 below 1, eh?

If there was some hypothetical where everybody could’ve agreed to completely lock down, mortgages and rent were frozen, etc. at the beginning then fine.

But that’s not realistic at this point and it’s too late. Places have begun to open up and despite the doom and gloom “just wait 2 weeks” predictions my state (Florida) and Georgia are doing ok and people are at least getting somewhat back to normal.

If you want to shame us for that because some people are still dying, you can go **** yourself.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by kcxiv

no, its the truth! Spin it how you want and **** your strawman bullshit. If people cared about others, they would be smart about it.

Yeah, you just somehow know that anyone that doesn't agree with you just doesn't care about people .....but it isn't a straw man.

Riiiigggghhhttt.......

[Donger]

Originally Posted by staylor26

If there was some hypothetical where everybody could’ve agreed to completely lock down, mortgages and rent were frozen, etc. at the beginning then fine.

But that’s not realistic at this point and it’s too late. Places have begun to open up and despite the doom and gloom “just wait 2 weeks” predictions my state (Florida) and Georgia are doing ok and people are at least getting somewhat back to normal.

If you want to shame us for that because some people are still dying, you can go **** yourself.

There was and is. Wearing a mask.

[PAChiefsGuy]

Originally Posted by petegz28

What Magic 8-Ball did you get "a few more months from?" And the one from your coke dealer doesn't count. Or then again maybe it does.

Sounds like you are speaking from experience. Me I barely even drink but hey if you enjoy cocaine do your thing. I hear the sex is great on it.

Social distancing isn't torture. You keep acting like it is. **** outta here w that. If i can save some lives by practicing it then yeah I'm going to do it for however long they want me to. Michigan has the stay at home orders for a reason. they aren't doing it for fun.

[Bowser]

Originally Posted by petegz28

Dude I don't get into crowded areas of water save maybe the ocean. Don't really like ever getting in the lake and sure as **** would never get in a pool full of drunk, idiots.

Yes, same. Lol

Originally Posted by Donger

I don't know what your county or state said. I do know what Dr. Fauci said.

It was all about flattening the curve and keeping the hospitals from being overwhelmed in the beginning of C-19.

[staylor26]

Originally Posted by Donger

There was and is. Wearing a mask.

And depending on where you live and how far you take that, that’s fine.

Like I said, I live in Key West where the cases have become pretty much non-existent and a total of 3 people died all together despite a late lockdown.

I’m not going to wear a mask other than when I have to. If I lived somewhere else, I’d be a little more considerate.

[Easy 6]

Pot dispensaries essential - churches not

Filthy crowded Walmart’s essential - small businesses not

You can stand in line at Home Depot - but not to vote

You can walk in the wet sand in LA - but can’t relax in the dry sand

The nationwide list of measures that don’t make a damn bit of sense goes on and on and on and on... the curve has been flattened in most states, which was the stated goal at the beginning of this

Some of these governors got a taste of dictatorial power and found they reeeally like it, its turned into a shitshow and people have had enough of watching their bank accounts drain empty and the business they’ve spent a lifetime building close down permanently

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by PAChiefsGuy

Sounds like you are speaking from experience. Me I barely even drink but hey if you enjoy cocaine do your thing. I hear the sex is great on it.

Social distancing isn't torture. You keep acting like it is. **** outta here w that. If i can save some lives by practicing it then yeah I'm going to do it for however long they want me to. Michigan has the stay at home orders for a reason. they aren't doing it for fun.

That was a lot of words but you never answered the question I asked you.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by Bowser

Yes, same. Lol



It was all about flattening the curve and keeping the hospitals from being overwhelmed in the beginning of C-19.

Damn skippy....

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by Easy 6

Pot dispensaries essential - churches not

Filthy crowded Walmart’s essential - small businesses not

You can stand in line at Home Depot - but not to vote

You can walk in the wet sand in LA - but can’t relax in the dry sand

The nationwide list of measures that don’t make a damn bit of sense goes on and on and on and on... the curve has been flattened in most states, which was the stated goal at the beginning of this

Some of these governors got a taste of dictatorial power and found they reeeally like it, its turned into a shitshow and people have had enough of watching their bank accounts drain empty and the business they’ve spent a lifetime building close down permanently

Don't forget you can go out in a rowboat or sailboat but not a motorboat.

[Donger]

Originally Posted by Bowser

It was all about flattening the curve and keeping the hospitals from being overwhelmed in the beginning of C-19.

No, that wasn't all. That was just part of it. If one doesn't get infected, one doesn't get sick. If one doesn't get sick, one doesn't got to the hospital. If one doesn't get sick, one can't die from it.