Chiefs 2023 Free Agency - Page 222

O.city · 03-01-2023, 11:01 AM

Figured we could get one of these going as well.

Who's some guys we like, would like to see in KC?

RunKC · 03-30-2023, 08:55 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

In this draft class, there really isn't a WR, even in rd 1, that could absolutely step in day 1.

The consensus best guys in this draft - Johnston and Smith-Njigba - would barely make the 1st round last year. They'd both have been taken after London, Olave, Wilson, and likely Williams as well. They'd slot in right around where Dotson went, as the 5th WR taken.

The drop off between 1st and 2nd round in this draft isn't as big as in some other drafts, honestly. The more I look at this draft, the more I think it's just not a good year for WR's, in any round.

Exactly how I feel. I think they’re pretty much all developmental prospects that will be available to us.

I think they are concerned about WR and RT and the solution is gonna be providing solid depth at both spots

staylor26 · 03-30-2023, 08:55 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

In this draft class, there really isn't a WR, even in rd 1, that could absolutely step in day 1.

The consensus best guys in this draft - Johnston and Smith-Njigba - would barely make the 1st round last year. They'd both have been taken after London, Olave, Wilson, and likely Williams as well. They'd slot in right around where Dotson went, as the 5th WR taken.

The drop off between 1st and 2nd round in this draft isn't as big as in some other drafts, honestly. The more I look at this draft, the more I think it's just not a good year for WR's, in any round.

Completely disagree with that last part.

It's not a great WR class at the top, but once you get to our range, it's pretty much just like any other draft the rest of the way.

**The Franchise** · 03-30-2023, 08:55 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

In this draft class, there really isn't a WR, even in rd 1, that could absolutely step in day 1.

The consensus best guys in this draft - Johnston and Smith-Njigba - would barely make the 1st round last year. They'd both have been taken after London, Olave, Wilson, and likely Williams as well. They'd slot in right around where Dotson went, as the 5th WR taken.

The drop off between 1st and 2nd round in this draft isn't as big as in some other drafts, honestly. The more I look at this draft, the more I think it's just not a good year for WR's, in any round.

I think as long as you're looking at these WRs as guys that have certain skillsets and roles in an offense....it's fine. There are plenty of guys that could find a spot in this offense over the next 1-3 years and succeed. No, there aren't any top flight WRs but we don't have an opportunity at drafting those guys no matter what year it is.

Mecca · 03-30-2023, 08:56 AM

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Originally Posted by RunKC

Exactly how I feel. I think they’re pretty much all developmental prospects that will be available to us.

I think they are concerned about WR and RT and the solution is gonna be providing solid depth at both spots

Go watch 5 minutes of Josh Downs and tell me he can't step in and play...yes he's short.

Hyatt isn't nearly as polished and has a lot more developing to do yea.

htismaqe · 03-30-2023, 08:57 AM

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Originally Posted by The Franchise

I think as long as you're looking at these WRs as guys that have certain skillsets and roles in an offense....it's fine. There are plenty of guys that could find a spot in this offense over the next 1-3 years and succeed. No, there aren't any top flight WRs but we don't have an opportunity at drafting those guys no matter what year it is.

Right. That's how I see it. There aren't any "stars" just role players. Not that we don't need those, I just think people need to temper expectations.

I wouldn't be at all shocked if they went DB high again. They value the back end a lot.

O.city · 03-30-2023, 08:57 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

In this draft class, there really isn't a WR, even in rd 1, that could absolutely step in day 1.

The consensus best guys in this draft - Johnston and Smith-Njigba - would barely make the 1st round last year. They'd both have been taken after London, Olave, Wilson, and likely Williams as well. They'd slot in right around where Dotson went, as the 5th WR taken.

The drop off between 1st and 2nd round in this draft isn't as big as in some other drafts, honestly. The more I look at this draft, the more I think it's just not a good year for WR's, in any round.

Alot of people are talking themselves into some of them, which, there are a few I do think could be good players here.

But none of them are legit first rounders IMO that I would take at 31. Maybe Hyatt, but even then.....I dunno.

Mecca · 03-30-2023, 08:57 AM

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Originally Posted by O.city

Alot of people are talking themselves into some of them, which, there are a few I do think could be good players here.

But none of them are legit first rounders IMO that I would take at 31. Maybe Hyatt, but even then.....I dunno.

It really comes down to what you like, Zay Flowers is going to be a very good NFL player.

htismaqe · 03-30-2023, 08:58 AM

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Originally Posted by staylor26

Completely disagree with that last part.

It's not a great WR class at the top, but once you get to our range, it's pretty much just like any other draft the rest of the way.

Except it isn't.

The talent level this year seems to about 2/3 of a round behind last year. The guys being mocked towards the end of the 2nd round aren't even as good of prospects as Skyy Moore, for example.

O.city · 03-30-2023, 08:59 AM

Once you get past the top 2 or 3 WR's....I think I'd take Skyy over them so they become a bit redundant

O.city · 03-30-2023, 09:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

It really comes down to what you like, Zay Flowers is going to be a very good NFL player.

At 170 pounds....it woudl be a bit of an outlier.

**The Franchise** · 03-30-2023, 09:02 AM

You have to figure that they're going to bring back Justin Watson at some point. It's not like he's swamped with offers right now. That gives you a WR group of MVS, Toney, Moore and Watson.

That probably means they draft a WR at some point in the draft this year. I don't think it will be high. Probably around the 3rd or 4th round.

On the other hand...this defensive line class is pretty ****ing good and it's deep. I could totally see them going DE and DT in the first 2 rounds unless a top WR or top OT falls.

Mecca · 03-30-2023, 09:03 AM

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Originally Posted by O.city

At 170 pounds....it woudl be a bit of an outlier.

Devonta Smith weighs 170lbs...and Zay is shorter so he's actually thicker...

Santana Moss was productive as a small receiver in a tougher era of the NFL.

htismaqe · 03-30-2023, 09:04 AM

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Originally Posted by The Franchise

You have to figure that they're going to bring back Justin Watson at some point. It's not like he's swamped with offers right now. That gives you a WR group of MVS, Toney, Moore and Watson.

That probably means they draft a WR at some point in the draft this year. I don't think it will be high. Probably around the 3rd or 4th round.

On the other hand...this defensive line class is pretty ****ing good and it's deep. I could totally see them going DE and DT in the first 2 rounds unless a top WR or top OT falls.

DL sure seems to be where the value is at in this draft, at least in the earlier rounds.

staylor26 · 03-30-2023, 09:05 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

Except it isn't.

The talent level this year seems to about 2/3 of a round behind last year. The guys being mocked towards the end of the 2nd round aren't even as good of prospects as Skyy Moore, for example.

I think you're greatly exaggerating the difference outside the top 3-4 guys.

I don't think there's a significant difference between Rashee Rice and Skyy Moore in terms of talent, and Rice should go around the same spot.

O.city · 03-30-2023, 09:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

Devonta Smith weighs 170lbs...and Zay is shorter so he's actually thicker...

Santana Moss was productive as a small receiver in a tougher era of the NFL.

Yes, outliers.

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