***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[Bob Dole]

Arkansas bars opened yesterday and I worked lasted night. Everyone was required to enter with a mask, get their temp taken and sanitize their hands. Had the largest Tuesday night crowd in the year i’ve Been working there. There was also an employee dedicated to walking around sanitizing everything.

The county where this bar is located has had 22 cases and 1 death, for those proponents of a “national plan”.

[Gravedigger]

Originally Posted by ARROW2

yeah, how is that "flu" vaccine working out these days?


The flu death numbers have been high every year, yet there were no lockdowns, distancing, masks, etc....

600K die from heart disease every year
600K die from cancer every year
250K from medical "mistakes" every year
Not to mention accidental deaths, alzheimers, diabetes, etc.


but I am sure the oxygen depriving masks and miracle vaccine will change everything....Stay tuned folks.

Heart Disease isn’t transferable by droplets from someone else’s breath.
Cancer isn’t transferable by droplets from someone else’s breath.
The vast majority of your vague Medical mistakes argument aren’t transferable from someone else’s breath and if they are the doctors and nurses wear masks to mitigate the possibility.
Alzheimer’s isn’t transferable from someone else’s breath.
Diabetes isn’t transferable from someone else’s breath.

The majority of the arguments you put forth are based on bad personal decisions both in the long term and short term. But I guess if you don’t try to avoid them then you wouldn’t try to avoid COVID as well, the difference is you’re just playing Russian roulette with your own life when it comes to all the deflections you presented, with COVID you’re forcing others to play your game, and you don’t seem to mind one bit.

Also the Flu claimed roughly 80000 lives in 2018, so COVID already beat that in three months with all this social distancing. I’m sure you can understand that at least some of those 80000 deaths could have been mitigated if the deceased would’ve gotten a flu shot. Problem with COVID is we don’t have a vaccine for people to ignore, but once we have an effective vaccine then your argument will probably have the validity you want it to.

[Perineum Ripper]

I ****ing hate this thread, it’s turned into people just bitching at each other instead of news.



When numbers were compared to the flu, people screamed it’s not the flu.

Those people who screamed it’s not the flu, turn around and compare it to war. So apparently this virus is closer to war and not the flu.


Pete shows up and screams at people, Donger shows up and asks questions none stop. Takes things as literal as possible when it benefits his argument. Lew shows up and pokes at Pete to fire him up. BWillie, wants everyone, everywhere to wear masks nonstop, because people were drafted into war. So I guess I will wear my mask to protect my cows, since I never see other humans outside of my wife and kids. Hamas is somehow shocked people are ignorant, which is scary he is just now figuring this out. Tuck Daddy shows up and shows he is still unable to spell and has a stupid contribution to the thread.


If I missed your contribution to this thread, please add to it

[Mecca]

Originally Posted by mac459

I ****ing hate this thread, it’s turned into people just bitching at each other instead of news.



When numbers were compared to the flu, people screamed it’s not the flu.

Those people who screamed it’s not the flu, turn around and compare it to war. So apparently this virus is closer to war and not the flu.


Pete shows up and screams at people, Donger shows up and asks questions none stop. Takes things as literal as possible when it benefits his argument. Lew shows up and pokes at Pete to fire him up. BWillie, wants everyone, everywhere to wear masks nonstop, because people were drafted into war. So I guess I will wear my mask to protect my cows, since I never see other humans outside of my wife and kids. Hamas is somehow shocked people are ignorant, which is scary he is just now figuring this out. Tuck Daddy shows up and shows he is still unable to spell and has a stupid contribution to the thread.


If I missed your contribution to this thread, please add to it

I don't think Hamas is surprised by people's ignorance, I think he is surprised at just how deep it runs though.

[Merde Furieux]

Originally Posted by Mecca

I don't think Hamas is surprised by people's ignorance, I think he is surprised at just how deep it runs though.

Why don't you just pull his pants down and blow him and get it over with already.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by mac459

I ****ing hate this thread, it’s turned into people just bitching at each other instead of news.



When numbers were compared to the flu, people screamed it’s not the flu.

Those people who screamed it’s not the flu, turn around and compare it to war. So apparently this virus is closer to war and not the flu.


Pete shows up and screams at people, Donger shows up and asks questions none stop. Takes things as literal as possible when it benefits his argument. Lew shows up and pokes at Pete to fire him up. BWillie, wants everyone, everywhere to wear masks nonstop, because people were drafted into war. So I guess I will wear my mask to protect my cows, since I never see other humans outside of my wife and kids. Hamas is somehow shocked people are ignorant, which is scary he is just now figuring this out. Tuck Daddy shows up and shows he is still unable to spell and has a stupid contribution to the thread.


If I missed your contribution to this thread, please add to it

I'M NOT SCREAMING!!!!

[BleedingRed]

Originally Posted by Merde Furieux

Why don't you just pull his pants down and blow him and get it over with already.

Got Em

[Mecca]

Originally Posted by BleedingRed

Got Em

Got what? That dude does nothing but post inane shit in the cesspool all day everyday. Being insulted by him is about on par with having a person that has an IQ of 54 insulting someones intelligence level.

[Monticore]

Originally Posted by BleedingRed

Got Em

You sucking merde's dick is all good though.

[kcxiv]

Originally Posted by mac459

I ****ing hate this thread, it’s turned into people just bitching at each other instead of news.



When numbers were compared to the flu, people screamed it’s not the flu.

Those people who screamed it’s not the flu, turn around and compare it to war. So apparently this virus is closer to war and not the flu.


Pete shows up and screams at people, Donger shows up and asks questions none stop. Takes things as literal as possible when it benefits his argument. Lew shows up and pokes at Pete to fire him up. BWillie, wants everyone, everywhere to wear masks nonstop, because people were drafted into war. So I guess I will wear my mask to protect my cows, since I never see other humans outside of my wife and kids. Hamas is somehow shocked people are ignorant, which is scary he is just now figuring this out. Tuck Daddy shows up and shows he is still unable to spell and has a stupid contribution to the thread.


If I missed your contribution to this thread, please add to it

What did you think was going to happen though? it happens in all threads of all different subjects. You got 1 side that knows what they are talking about and tries to explain it and the others that just dont want to hear it or ignore it. Its going to happen. lol

[BleedingRed]

Originally Posted by Monticore

You sucking merde's dick is all good though.

lmao,

Getting closer to the Mults home are we?

[stevieray]

Originally Posted by Monticore

You could try using reverse psychology but that might put the majority of the population at risk.

Cry some more bitch.

[Merde Furieux]

Originally Posted by kcxiv

What did you think was going to happen though? it happens in all threads of all different subjects. You got 1 side that knows what they are talking about and tries to explain it and

GroupThink™

[BleedingRed]

Originally Posted by stevieray

Cry some more bitch.

He's from "Canada", showed up right after the Super Bowl..........

We need the Mult detectives on this one!

[ChiTown]

So, I have a question about masks. Are people that go out to restaurants wearing masks while they are sitting for their meals? I haven't sat down for a meal inside a restaurant since this all started, so I honestly don't know.