***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[Abba-Dabba]

pfft, face masks are nothing.

try MOPP 4 in 130 degree heat for a few days.

[Donger]

Originally Posted by BleedingRed

You're right I do not care, and your virtue signalling that you care doesn't change the fact you don't.

I never said I don't do the above, I've worn masks since this whole thing started. But considering I'm doing it to GO ALONG with what you hysterical people are doing as opposed to some NOBLE ACT means I dont really ****ing care.

.4 Best Estimate right now, will probably drop even lower. But considering you dont seem to care about the people committing suicide at a break neck pace, means your trash.

For the last time, yes, you've repeatedly shown yourself to be a selfish piece of trash.

[BleedingRed]

Originally Posted by RubberSponge

pfft, face masks are nothing.

try MOPP 4 in 130 degree heat for a few days.

XD

[Ebolapox]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

I took Chemistry I & II in high school along with Physics and both were year long courses.

I didn't pursue a university degree in science but I did ace Physics and Chemistry my Freshman year in college.

I've always loved science but my path took me elsewhere.

science takes critical thinking, something which we as a nation completely lack.

it's controversial to say, but... has anybody on the right side of the political spectrum ever considered that MAYBE there's a reason most (huge percentage) of those who have a higher education lean left?

I went into undergrad hard right. wrote an editorial in high school in a newspaper in missouri about how we should impeach a democratic president (keeping it apolitical hahahaha) over lying over a blowjob.

years later and experiencing the amazing diversity this world has to offer?

yeah, I don't think I'd have been for a certain current president being impeached over a blowjob. a democrat either. it's about the act, not your party.

I wonder if both sides feel the same. one's impeachment was truly political. a blowjob? hell, stormy daniels while he had an infant in the house? yeah.....


































****ing yeah........

[BleedingRed]

Originally Posted by Ebolapox

science takes critical thinking, something which we as a nation completely lack.

it's controversial to say, but... has anybody on the right side of the political spectrum ever considered that MAYBE the reason most (huge percentage) of those who have a higher education lean left?

I went into undergrad hard right. wrote an editorial in high school in a newspaper in missouri about how we should impeach a democratic president (keeping it apolitical hahahaha) over lying over a blowjob.

years later and experiencing the amazing diversity this world has to offer?

yeah, I don't think I'd have been for a certain current president being impeached over a blowjob. a democrat either. it's about the act, not your party.

I wonder if both sides feel the same. one's impeachment was truly political. a blowjob? hell, stormy daniels while he had an infant in the house? yeah.....


































****ing yeah........

#72Genders #HigherEducatedLeanLeft

[Marcellus]

Originally Posted by RubberSponge

pfft, face masks are nothing.

try MOPP 4 in 130 degree heat for a few days.

That is a no shitter.

I really couldn't imagine being an EOD guy in that heat either.

[Ebolapox]

Originally Posted by BleedingRed

#72Genders #HigherEducatedLeanLeft

wow, goalpost move much?

nope. I never said we had 72 genders, nor do I represent all scientists.

but go ahead. challenge your view of this world. or, just meme your way away and ignore facts. that's cool. but the people like me, trying to find a freaking cure so your dumb ass doesn't die? we do it anyway regardless. maybe try to be a bit more thankful of those that studied in school.

or don't. keep reading breitbart.

[BleedingRed]

Originally Posted by Ebolapox

wow, goalpost move much?

nope. I never said we had 72 genders, nor do I represent all scientists.

but go ahead. challenge your view of this world. or, just meme your way away and ignore facts. that's cool. but the people like me, trying to find a freaking cure so your dumb ass doesn't die? we do it anyway regardless. maybe try to be a bit more thankful of those that studied in school.

or don't. keep reading breitbart.

None political thread and you post shit like

Originally Posted by Ebolapox

science takes critical thinking, something which we as a nation completely lack.

it's controversial to say, but... has anybody on the right side of the political spectrum ever considered that MAYBE there's a reason most (huge percentage) of those who have a higher education lean left?

Forgive me if I say, *Clears throat* **** You

[SupDock]

Originally Posted by Ebolapox

wow, goalpost move much?

nope. I never said we had 72 genders, nor do I represent all scientists.

but go ahead. challenge your view of this world. or, just meme your way away and ignore facts. that's cool. but the people like me, trying to find a freaking cure so your dumb ass doesn't die? we do it anyway regardless. maybe try to be a bit more thankful of those that studied in school.

or don't. keep reading breitbart.

My big surprise is how minority opinions are so widespread here.

If you criticize a study design, people feel like you are following a political agenda. It's ridiculous.

There is a lack of understanding of how scientific evidence (and the different levels of evidence) works

[Easy 6]

Originally Posted by Ebolapox

science takes critical thinking, something which we as a nation completely lack.

it's controversial to say, but... has anybody on the right side of the political spectrum ever considered that MAYBE there's a reason most (huge percentage) of those who have a higher education lean left?

I went into undergrad hard right. wrote an editorial in high school in a newspaper in missouri about how we should impeach a democratic president (keeping it apolitical hahahaha) over lying over a blowjob.

years later and experiencing the amazing diversity this world has to offer?

yeah, I don't think I'd have been for a certain current president being impeached over a blowjob. a democrat either. it's about the act, not your party.

I wonder if both sides feel the same. one's impeachment was truly political. a blowjob? hell, stormy daniels while he had an infant in the house? yeah.....


































****ing yeah........

Originally Posted by Ebolapox

wow, goalpost move much?

nope. I never said we had 72 genders, nor do I represent all scientists.

but go ahead. challenge your view of this world. or, just meme your way away and ignore facts. that's cool. but the people like me, trying to find a freaking cure so your dumb ass doesn't die? we do it anyway regardless. maybe try to be a bit more thankful of those that studied in school.

or don't. keep reading breitbart.

Non political thread my ass

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by Ebolapox

but the people like me, trying to find a freaking cure so your dumb ass doesn't die? we do it anyway regardless. maybe try to be a bit more thankful of those that studied in school.

One of my nieces just received a Bachelor's in neuroscience and was planning to visit Cornell, Princeton, USC and a few others for her Phd before C-19 struck.

Another is Pre-Med at KU, a nephew is heading to Rice next year to study neuroscience and my SIL is a Nurse Practioner.

These kids are our future.

[BleedingRed]

Originally Posted by Easy 6

Non political thread my ass

Maybe his higher education didn't include reading comprehension?

[Mecca]

Originally Posted by Ebolapox

I mean, look... I can shout all day that the sky is green but I'd be wrong. argue with emotion all day long but the facts... the basic freaking facts... like how a lysosome does its job in the cell (any of you people who think this is a hoax remember high school science and learning about cells?!?) are correct and true regardless of what you want to believe.

by the way, go ahead and challenge me on some basic science, that'd be fun. I only have a peer reviewed article on a lysosomal storage disease caused by a genetic mutation. weird flex, I know, but... for crying out loud, it feels like nobody paid attention to high school science.

People by and large are selfish and lazy, if you show them 99 studies that say 1 thing and then 1 study that says something they either identify with more or honestly is easier to do then they'll go with that. People would rather just go with what's convenient than anything else.

I think that's where science denial really came from.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by BleedingRed

Maybe his higher education didn't include reading comprehension?

Like you've been apolitical in this thread

[BleedingRed]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Like you've been apolitical in this thread

I haven't,

I haven't made a single political reference unless responding to a outright political point.

Just saying........