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Old 01-07-2021, 12:01 PM  
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***Official 2021 Royals Season Repository Thread***
For all things Royals for the new year.

Free Agent Signings:
Carlos Santana
Mike Minor
Michael Taylor
Ervin Santana

Top 10 Prospects:
1 Bobby Witt Jr., SS
2 Asa Lacy, LHP
3 Daniel Lynch, LHP
4 Jackson Kowar, RHP
5 Erick Pena, OF
6 Nick Loftin, SS
7 Kyle Isbel, OF
8 Khali Lee, OF
9 Jonathan Bowlan, RHP
10 Carlos Hernedez, RHP
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Old 07-08-2021, 09:28 AM   #3391
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The best thing about this season is Perez is in the Home Run Derby.

He's going to win it, too. If he doesn't have to worry about it being a ball, there is no looking back for Perez. He would be my odds on favorite to win it.
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Old 07-08-2021, 10:01 AM   #3392
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That Flanagan Twitter thread is fantastic.

Speaks to a lot of the things I was worried/concerned about with Matheny and staff.

I think Matheny will survive this season/offseason and end up getting canned midseason next year. His staff will get turned over. Pay attention to his bench coach - if they hire someone with prior managing experience, the writing is on the wall.

ITT, You’ve sorta become the apologist for the F.O.
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Old 07-08-2021, 10:29 AM   #3393
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ITT, You’ve sorta become the apologist for the F.O.
I disagree, he is just reporting what he thinks will happen, not what he wants to happen.

He has been pretty clear in that he would like to see sweeping changes with the development of our players.
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Old 07-08-2021, 11:02 AM   #3394
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Random, pointless stat for the Arizona Royals fans.... the Royals' comeback the other night got me wondering.... prior to Tuesday night, the last time the Royals and Diamondbacks won on the same day was 6/1, a span of 28 games when they played on the same day.
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Old 07-08-2021, 11:09 AM   #3395
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ITT, You’ve sorta become the apologist for the F.O.
I'm not trying to apologize or defend except where I feel people are being unreasonable or maybe aren't seeing the whole picture.

What I want to happen is different from what I think will happen.

I've been very clear and transparent from the first hint of Matheny becoming manager that I think this is a huge mistake, a mis-step, and that Moore is putting his job on the line (for me) with this hire.

If they stick with Matheny and this staff without changes, I want a cleaned house top to bottom.

They stick with Matheny and make staff changes, I think it's time to remove Moore from that part of the decision process and move him upstairs, where his strengths can still be valuable (culture, investment in scouts, etc.). Even if it works.

If they can Matheny and flip over the whole staff, I'll give Moore some credit. I don't believe he has it in him to take that approach. But we'll see.

My historical defense of Moore has been based on a few legs:

1) How much of a task he inherited
2) How successful he was in "fixing" what he inherited
3) How hard it is for a market like KC to actually win a WS, let alone make it to 2
4) The success rate of GMs. It's not easy to get that hire right.
2)
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Old 07-08-2021, 11:16 AM   #3396
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ITT, You’ve sorta become the apologist for the F.O.
Out of curiosity, what’s your current stance on Matheny?
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Old 07-08-2021, 11:26 AM   #3397
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We've been shitty at developing starting pitching for a long time. A very long time.

Starting pitching was SUPPOSED to be what fueled the 2015 'best farm system ever destined to be World Champions' club.

It wasn't. Duffy and Ventura were the only guys that worked out, really.

They need to make some organizational changes.
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Old 07-08-2021, 11:27 AM   #3398
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Out of curiosity, what’s your current stance on Matheny?
Everyone in the org needs to be on watch.
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Old 07-08-2021, 11:29 AM   #3399
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That’s where I am too.
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Old 07-08-2021, 11:31 AM   #3400
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That’s where I am too.
I’m in the Beane school of: managers don’t matter much.

As such, that cuts both ways. Matheny prob isn’t losing those games on his own but letting him go won’t be any real loss either.
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Old 07-08-2021, 12:45 PM   #3401
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Moore seems to really like Matheny in a personal sense. Given the org's "family" outlook on things, I'd expect him to get a very long leash. Maybe even longer than Bob Sutton.
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Old 07-08-2021, 12:48 PM   #3402
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I’m in the Beane school of: managers don’t matter much.

As such, that cuts both ways. Matheny prob isn’t losing those games on his own but letting him go won’t be any real loss either.
I feel like a bad manager has a more negative impact on a team than a good manager has a positive impact if that makes sense.
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Old 07-08-2021, 01:17 PM   #3403
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Moore seems to really like Matheny in a personal sense. Given the org's "family" outlook on things, I'd expect him to get a very long leash. Maybe even longer than Bob Sutton.
Agreed. Unfortunately.

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I feel like a bad manager has a more negative impact on a team than a good manager has a positive impact if that makes sense.
100 percent agree. Being "awesome" doesn't gain you much beyond being "competant." But being bad can hurt you a lot.

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I’m in the Beane school of: managers don’t matter much.

As such, that cuts both ways. Matheny prob isn’t losing those games on his own but letting him go won’t be any real loss either.
No doubt he isn't losing on his own. My argument would be that he and his below-average staff are making things worse than they can be. A good manager might help you pull an extra win or two. A bad manager who makes his team play tight, doesn't organize appropriately, and burns his bullpen (it sure looks like Matheny still doesn't pay attention to whether he's warming guys up too much in the pen) can certainly hurt you.
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Old 07-08-2021, 01:19 PM   #3404
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I’m in the Beane school of: managers don’t matter much.

As such, that cuts both ways. Matheny prob isn’t losing those games on his own but letting him go won’t be any real loss either.
What about pitching coaches
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The Royals developmental system is terrible, it has been for a long time. The guys having constructed this is at fault. Draft all you want at the top of the draft, it doesn't matter because we can't do anything with that talent (for the most part). The very few guys that DO develop are doing so in spite of the organization, or were acquired later in their development (Cain)
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