****Official NFL 2012 Draft Thread****

[SPchief]

We know the 1st two picks. After that? Lets Go!



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[milkman]

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

It depends on how you define risk.

Is "risk" talking about desperately settling for a QB because he's safe, even if he doesn't have tremendous upside? To me, risk is gambling to trade up aggressively for the right QB--I think the Chiefs should have tried and I'm disappointed that they didn't, but in the end, the compensation was WAY too high if the Chiefs wanted to match. To me, risk is gambling on a QB with tremendous skill sets that lead you to believe he could be a franchise QB, even if he has some major flaw in the game that gives him major downside risk.

Tannehill doesn't feel that way whatsoever. People want to say we'd be taking a chance on a QB, but deep inside, we know he feels more safe than risky. Nobody really think he's going to suck. But we think there's a good likelihood he'll be better than Cassel. Yet, there doesn't seem to be many people here that have the thought in the back of his mind that this kid has a chance to be something special. More like the kid has a good chance of not sucking.

That all has the sound of pure utter bullshit to me.

But then that's how all your bullshit arguments ever are.

I've said a number of times that I like Tannehill's upside more than I like Barkley's.

I think the kid has the tools to be special, from arm strength, to athletic ability, to intelligenc.

You just keep making long winded bullshit arguments, because you're trying bait everyone into thinking just like you.

You're a bullshit artist.

[mdchiefsfan]

Originally Posted by ILChief

Siler and Studebaker aren't awful depth. Hillis is a good running back with some mcnugget mixed in

Plus Greenwood

[BossChief]

THE BIGGEST "RISK" A TEAM CAN TAKE IS TRYING TO WIN A CHAMPIONSHIP WITHOUT A FIRST ROUND QUARTERBACK.

[mdchiefsfan]

Originally Posted by BossChief

THE BIGGEST "RISK" A TEAM CAN TAKE IS TRYING TO WIN A CHAMPIONSHIP WITHOUT A FIRST ROUND QUARTERBACK.

I think the biggest risk a team can make is to draft 2nd round qb in the 1st and hope he plays out like a 1st round qb

[BossChief]

I haven't even tried to read everything in here, but have Romeo Crennels comments to Poe on the phone been posted?

"I'm gonna expect you to compete and play all three downs"

[Direckshun]

Alright, it's past midnight, and I'm a bit drunk. So I may just be slipping into homer mode.

But at best, we might have landed a full time nose, a full time left guard, and a new left tackle. In three ****ing picks, that's outstanding.

The worst case scenario while remaining reasonable: we get a huge, athletic defensive end to replace Dorsey, a full time left guard, and an effective swing tackle.

That could be an effective draft.

I could be happy with it.

Hard to say, though.

[BossChief]

I don't mind the picks.

They aren't the picks I would have made, but all three seem to have very very high ceilings.

Our offensive line went from not having any depth to being deep and talented across the board...while also being extremely young with seemingly unlimited potential.

If we get a safety, inside linebacker and another end that can play, all we need is for Cassel to get killed in a car accident and we are going to some really big games with this squad.

[mdchiefsfan]

Originally Posted by Direckshun

Alright, it's past midnight, and I'm a bit drunk. So I may just be slipping into homer mode.

But at best, we might have landed a full time nose, a full time left guard, and a new left tackle. In three ****ing picks, that's outstanding.

The worst case scenario while remaining reasonable: we get a huge, athletic defensive end to replace Dorsey, a full time left guard, and an effective swing tackle.

That could be an effective draft.

I could be happy with it.

Hard to say, though.

I'm pretty drink myself, but replacing Gregg, Lilja, and demoting Maneri/ Colin Brown is a damn good start to our draft

[EPodolak]

Round 3 over, and we've drafted 967 lbs. Still not a big enough shadow there to eclipse the QB weakness.

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by milkman

That all has the sound of pure utter bullshit to me.

But then that's how all your bullshit arguments ever are.

I've said a number of times that I like Tannehill's upside more than I like Barkley's.

I think the kid has the tools to be special, from arm strength, to athletic ability, to intelligenc.

You just keep making long winded bullshit arguments, because you're trying bait everyone into thinking just like you.

You're a bullshit artist.

You and Boss have been touting that he can be special but that's not everybody's sentiment. Most people are endorsing Tannehill because we need to take a chance on a first round QB and because he's not Cassel. No mention of whether he can be special. It's not risk averse if there are some, like myself, who want to be aggressive about getting a QB... only if it's the right QB. To me, it's risk averse that so many people want to take a QB simply because he's there, not because they're excited about him.

And that's why I'm okay with the Poe pick. That's a risky pick if there ever was one. I think most people agree that this is a pure boom/bust pick. He's probably going to either play extremely well or he's going to crash really badly. The Tannehill pick... yes, my personal opinion that Tannehill in relation to NFL QBs has an average skill set --his floor isn't bad, but his ceiling isn't impressive. Just a personal opinion. I'm not risk averse. I'm picky.

Either way, talking can's insistence that Poe was a needs based pick and not one made on a risky dare... just silly. Claiming those who support the Poe pick because it was risky are Pioli shills, then saying those who don't support risky moves for QBs are Pioli shills... contradictory.

[keg in kc]

Something tells me I'm not going to be awake at 9 when it kicks off again.

[Urc Burry]

Originally Posted by BossChief

I don't mind the picks.

They aren't the picks I would have made, but all three seem to have very very high ceilings.

Our offensive line went from not having any depth to being deep and talented across the board...while also being extremely young with seemingly unlimited potential.

If we get a safety, inside linebacker and another end that can play, all we need is for Cassel to get killed in a car accident and we are going to some really big games with this squad.

I agree. NT and guard in the 1st two rounds was a must, even if Poe is questionable. I personally would of waited on a backup T, but if these analysts really think he can be a Franchise LT down the road it is hard to be against it.

In the 4th i'm looking for a RB with Turbin and Lamar Miller still on the board or a safety in Iloka.

[mdchiefsfan]

Originally Posted by keg in kc

Something tells me I'm not going to be awake at 9 when it kicks off again.

Hear hear!!

[Frosty]

Originally Posted by keg in kc

Something tells me I'm not going to be awake at 9 when it kicks off again.

9? It starts at 9 for me (pacific time) but I thought it was 11 for you (central)?

[Hammock Parties]

Originally Posted by BossChief

If we get a safety, inside linebacker and another end that can play, all we need is for Cassel to get killed in a car accident and we are going to some really big games with this squad.

That's bullshit man.

Cassel can merely shatter both fibulas.