***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[ping2000]

Originally Posted by RINGLEADER

There’s going to be toilet paper sitting on the shelves for a year once they restock.

People are buying ****ing corn on the cob. It is that bad.

[eDave]

Originally Posted by Strongside

Just left a bar. The opposite of social distancing is still alive and well, I can tell you that.

[Strongside]

Originally Posted by ping2000

Probably an easy time to get laid.

Sure looked that way.

[BIG_DADDY]

Originally Posted by ping2000

Our store was out of ****ing SPAM. I am one of the few on the planet that actually like it. I know damn well none of these ****ing preppers are going to eat it. It will sit in their basement on a shelf for the next 22 years next to 5000 rolls of toilet paper. **** you.

Funny I didn’t know teriyaki spam was a thang.

[ping2000]

Originally Posted by BIG_DADDY

Funny I didn’t know teriyaki spam was a thang.

I'm not from Wuhan. Ping is my brand of golf clubs.

[Frazod]

Originally Posted by ping2000

Our store was out of ****ing SPAM. I am one of the few on the planet that actually like it. I know damn well none of these ****ing preppers are going to eat it. It will sit in their basement on a shelf for the next 22 years next to 5000 rolls of toilet paper. **** you.

We had plenty of Spam, but they were completely out of Underwood deviled chicken.

Go figure.

[jerryaldini]

Open season on preppers. If you see one in the parking lot with full cart of supplies, take appropriate action.

[ping2000]

Originally Posted by Frazod

We had plenty of Spam, but they were completely out of Underwood deviled chicken.



Go figure.

My college roommate used to eat mackerel right out of the can. That's ****ing cat food. Nasty. Underwood Deviled Ham is also cat food.

[loochy]

Originally Posted by patteeu

Your description sounded pretty bad. I went to the store here in KCMO and there were a couple of sections that were wiped or picked over (beans, toilet paper, etc.) but it wasn't too bad. I wonder what people in NYC and other similar urban areas experience in times like these? Their stores are so small and can't have much stock on hand.

Same here. We went to Trader Joes and Walmart last night and Costco this morning. TJs was low on frozen items and pasta was gone. Walmart was low on canned food and out of paper towels and tp. Costco was crazy busy, but stock was fine on every except tp and paper towels. Everything else was normsl-ish here in DFW. It's spring break time though, so I'm guessing a lot of people are gone. I wonder how much transmission we're going to get from Panama City and South Padre.

[TLO]

Anyone have any sort of update on how therapeutics are coming along?

[suzzer99]

Originally Posted by synthesis2

So from a extremely ignorant point of view I guess I am struggling with why this is such a horrible virus. It sounds like 95 plus percentage of deaths are old people with current problems. These are the people (for the most part) that quality of life is poor to bad right now. Why is it such a big deal if some of these people die a week/month or year early when their quality of life is bad anyway? If I end up in that same situation I would much rather just meet my maker then rot in a nursing home.

My sister is 50. She's fighting an auto-immune disease right now and is on some pretty harsh drugs. She says it already feels like she has severe asthma and can't breathe properly from the disease and the treatment. She seems like the absolute worse possible candidate to catch this. I am terrified that if she catches this it's a death sentence for her.

[Kman34]

Originally Posted by ping2000

I'm not from Wuhan. Ping is my brand of golf clubs.

I have a set of Pings... They are AWESOME...

[loochy]

Originally Posted by Spott

Supposedly the virus doesn’t spread well where it’s hot and humid. It was 87 today and it’s supposed to get below 80 anytime soon.

You mean like in Australia?

[Bwana]

Originally Posted by Frazod

Do yourself a favor and go tonight.

Yep, tomorrow is going to be insane.

[ping2000]

Originally Posted by Kman34

I have a set of Pings... They are AWESOME...

They are indeed. Great time to play while everyone is hiding indoors. And the clubhouse has toilet paper.