***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[KurtCobain]

Originally Posted by Mecca

My favorite thing about today's world calling someone arrogant because they are smarter than you but you don't like what they're saying and want to disagree just cause.

I do not think this is unique to today's world.

[Mecca]

Originally Posted by KurtCobain

I do not think this is unique to today's world.

I think it's more prevalent than it use to be, people won't just default and admit someone knows more than them. Learning something or letting an expert talk is viewed as weakness, it's bizarre.

[Bowser]

One thing we can all agree on is that we're going to have a much more clear view of what this thing is or isn't by Independence Day given all the opening up and partying and riots, no matter what your opinion of it is.

[Mecca]

Originally Posted by Bowser

One thing we can all agree on is that we're going to have a much more clear view of what this thing is or isn't by Independence Day given all the opening up and partying and riots, no matter what your opinion of it is.

I fully expect numbers to go up pretty significantly and if leads to any overrunning of the health system there is a scapegoat here to blame.......

[Bowser]

Originally Posted by Mecca

I fully expect numbers to go up pretty significantly and if leads to any overrunning of the health system there is a scapegoat here to blame.......

Numbers will go up for the continued surge in testing. We'll see if it jams up the hospitals or not. Hopefully it doesn't.

[TLO]

Originally Posted by KurtCobain

I do not think this is unique to today's world.

How are you feeling today?

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by Bowser

Numbers will go up for the continued surge in testing. We'll see if it jams up the hospitals or not. Hopefully it doesn't.

I'm really curious to see what happens in Missouri in the aftermath of Memorial Day Weekend because I think it will be a good indicator as to how to move forward.

[lewdog]

The largest hospital in Phoenix opened up 2 new COVID 19 ICU wings and is code purple (full capacity) as of yesterday. Record number of new cases in AZ each day.

[eDave]

Originally Posted by lewdog

The largest hospital in Phoenix opened up 2 new COVID 19 ICU wings and is code purple (full capacity) as of yesterday. Record number of new cases in AZ each day.

There was nobody at the opening of Talking Stick yesterday. I expected a surge and a long wait to get in.

[Donger]

Originally Posted by lewdog

The largest hospital in Phoenix opened up 2 new COVID 19 ICU wings and is code purple (full capacity) as of yesterday. Record number of new cases in AZ each day.

Arizona reporting more new cases today than New York. Shit.

[Indian Chief]

I'm not taking sides because I don't really feel like the argument is productive, but for the edification of anyone who is interested, we updated our COVID-19 treatment guidelines last Thursday. There is a lot that goes into treating these cases, but the broad strokes are:

1) Remdesivir is currently available
2) HCQ is no longer included in the guidelines due to "lack of compelling evidence at this time"
3) Tocilizumab
4) NSAIDs are fine based on no established link between NSAID use and worsening COVID-19
5) Convalescent plasma for severe cases

[lewdog]

Originally Posted by Donger

Arizona reporting more new cases today than New York. Shit.

Many People here were upset that we even locked down. I’m not shocked we’re spiking after opening much too early.

[Donger]

Originally Posted by lewdog

Many People here were upset that we even locked down. I’m not shocked we’re spiking after opening much too early.

And didn't things get loosened about two weeks ago?

[Donger]

Arizona hits record of 1,000-plus COVID-19 hospitalizations

https://fox6now.com/2020/06/02/arizo...pitalizations/

[Donger]

California going the wrong direction, hopefully because of increased testing?

https://www.worldometers.info/corona...sa/california/