Rick Gosselin draft grade: Chiefs get A+

[OnTheWarpath15]

Originally Posted by Chiefnj2

Can you point me to one, at least semi-respected analyst, who had McCluster ranked in the top 40?

Or, how about Arenas in the top 50?

I don't recall seeing those guys ranked that high, but maybe I completely overlooked it.

Scott Wright:

McCluster - 77
Arenas - 84

http://www.draftcountdown.com/Rankings/TOP.php

Rick Gosselin:

McCluster - 55
Arenas - 64

http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcont...0.3f50970.html

Those are the only two respected guys that do a Top 100 list, AFAIK.

Mock drafts:

Kirwan's Final Mock:

McCluster - 65
Arenas - 88

Mayock only did a 1 round mock.

[tk13]

Some of you guys really don't give an inch. Spiller is definitely more explosive but Arenas is one of the most prolific return men in the history of college football.

[Chiefnj2]

Originally Posted by tk13

Some of you guys really don't give an inch. Spiller is definitely more explosive but Arenas is one of the most prolific return men in the history of college football.

When you have the league's 31st ranked run defense, use a 4th or 5th round pick on special teams. In the 2nd and 3rd rounds find a NT and some LB's to stop the run and/or generate a rush. Find a full time WR who can actually catch the ball when it is lobbed 10 yards down field. Take a chance on a RT who won't let your QB get shell shocked by week 10 so that on the rare occassion he does get time in the pocket, he doesn't melt down.

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by Chiefnj2

When you have the league's 31st ranked run defense, use a 4th or 5th round pick on special teams. In the 2nd and 3rd rounds find a NT and some LB's to stop the run and/or generate a rush. Find a full time WR who can actually catch the ball when it is lobbed 10 yards down field. Take a chance on a RT who won't let your QB get shell shocked by week 10 so that on the rare occassion he does get time in the pocket, he doesn't melt down.

We weren't going to be a Super Bowl team, no matter who we drafted this year.

So what does it matter if we have a lower-ranked run defense this season, if we end up improving our pass defense and our run/pass offense based on picks we made this year? We weren't going to fix it all. Especially with this kind of an offseason, where free agents were pretty limited.

[Titty Meat]

OTW you sayin McCluster isnt a play maker?

[OnTheWarpath15]

Originally Posted by billay

OTW you sayin McCluster isnt a play maker?

?

Uh, mind quoting the post that leads you to that thinking?

[Titty Meat]

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

?

Uh, mind quoting the post that leads you to that thinking?

Well you keep bitching about him. What the **** are you complaning about if he makes plays? He's worth more than the fatass Cody.

[OnTheWarpath15]

Originally Posted by billay

Well you keep bitching about him. What the **** are you complaning about if he makes plays? He's worth more than the fatass Cody.

If you would read, I'm not bitching about the player.

I'm not thrilled they took him over impact players at positions of MUCH greater need.

Like I've said, they must value WR3 and nickle CB's over being able to stop the run.

[Titty Meat]

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

If you would read, I'm not bitching about the player.

I'm not thrilled they took him over impact players at positions of MUCH greater need.

Like I've said, they must value WR3 and nickle CB's over being able to stop the run.

Sorry man I never read three pages back it's too much work. I agree somewhat but it wasn't like the slot position wasn't a need and this team has so many holes I knew not every position would be filled. With that said i'm curious what the defense will look like with Berry and if Jackson improves. Gillberry also needs to play more.

[tk13]

Where did I try to justify the Arenas pick? I said he's one of the most prolific return men in CFB history. I don't think that's an inaccurate statement. I didn't say it was a good pick. I don't even know why I post here anymore. It's just a bunch of people who care more about being right on some message board. It's so stupid. I didn't say a single thing about that being a good pick. I wanted Cody in that spot. This whole board would be better off if they flushed the whole damn thing and started over.

[Hootie]

are you a ****ing idiot?

You JUST talked about my fondness for gambling...

Why would I take a losing bet?

Just because you yell louder than me and have guys like Hamas Jenkins on your side doesn't mean you know what you're talking about...

You guys prove it every year when you don't realize how little you really know when it comes to these prospects...you think you're some sort of a "draft guru" but you refuse to acknowledge you just take the work of others and spin it off as your own...you read everything anyone who follows the draft reads, and decide which things you want to believe in which things you don't want to believe...

and then you guys watch the combine and decide Bruce Campbell is an elite prospect...and pretend like you know what you're ****ing talking about...and then bash guys like Casserly for saying he is terrible on film...and then when he falls you're like "great pick! great pick!"

Of course it's a great pick...you ****ing creamed your pants over the guy because he is a freakish athlete with little football ability...

You're know-it-alls who watch one or two college football games per week...be honest...how many complete Ole Miss football games did you watch from start to end last year?

Be honest.

What about Maryland Terapin games?

Exactly.

[OnTheWarpath15]

Originally Posted by The Meat Dragon

are you a ****ing idiot?

You JUST talked about my fondness for gambling...

Why would I take a losing bet?

Just because you yell louder than me and have guys like Hamas Jenkins on your side doesn't mean you know what you're talking about...

You guys prove it every year when you don't realize how little you really know when it comes to these prospects...you think you're some sort of a "draft guru" but you refuse to acknowledge you just take the work of others and spin it off as your own...you read everything anyone who follows the draft reads, and decide which things you want to believe in which things you don't want to believe...

and then you guys watch the combine and decide Bruce Campbell is an elite prospect...and pretend like you know what you're ****ing talking about...and then bash guys like Casserly for saying he is terrible on film...and then when he falls you're like "great pick! great pick!"

Of course it's a great pick...you ****ing creamed your pants over the guy because he is a freakish athlete with little football ability...

You're know-it-alls who watch one or two college football games per week...be honest...how many complete Ole Miss football games did you watch from start to end last year?

Be honest.

What about Maryland Terapin games?

Exactly.

If all I do is yell louder, then you should win easily.

I don't know anything about football, remember?

****ing coward.

[Hootie]

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

If all I do is yell louder, then you should win easily.

I don't know anything about football, remember?

****ing coward.

Oh...

When have I ever confused anyone on this website of "liking" me more than you.

I don't give a shit if people like you more than me...congratulations...that's their prerogative...

Just because you and Hamas are the "in" clique on ChiefsPlanet...doesn't mean I want to go thread to thread fluffing you between jerk off sessions like you're pal DCS...

I'll stay independent, thank you. My loyalty is to myself and myself only!

[OnTheWarpath15]

Originally Posted by The Meat Dragon

Oh...

When have I ever confused anyone on this website of "liking" me more than you.

I don't give a shit if people like you more than me...congratulations...that's their prerogative...

Just because you and Hamas are the "in" clique on ChiefsPlanet...doesn't mean I want to go thread to thread fluffing you between jerk off sessions like you're pal DCS...

I'll stay independent, thank you. My loyalty is to myself and myself only!

I didn't say anything about "like."

This isn't a popularity contest.

You said I didn't know anything about football.

So I challenged you to post a poll asking who's football takes are more respected, mine, or yours.

I'm guessing that if I don't know anything about football, you'll win in a landslide.

Too bad you're a pussy that hides behind a keyboard, who's unwilling to back up what he says.

Coward.

[Hootie]

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

I didn't say anything about "like."

This isn't a popularity contest.

You said I didn't know anything about football.

So I challenged you to post a poll asking who's football takes are more respected, mine, or yours.

So then you're admitting you're an idiot then, right?

You know as well as I do that a poll on this website is nothing more than a popularity contest.

Now...

If you want to go over our posting history...football post by football post...every single one of them...I think you'd realize I don't get any credit for usually having a pretty good idea about the quality of a player or the quality of a team.

Just last year...I called Chris Johnson as the best RB in the NFL before the season even started...and told everyone they were nuts to think Carson Palmer was a franchise caliber QB...

Those are just two things...two things everyone knows now but before the season Mr. Knowledge himself Mecca couldn't get over and referenced over and over and over again..

he won't even talk about Carson Palmer anymore...he knows what I've said about him all along...and we all know how good Mecca is at trying to deflect things when he's wrong.