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Old 09-12-2011, 07:17 AM  
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Dexter McCluster Countdown Thread
Well since GoPlagerism is touting my post in is signature, I figured I would start a countdown thread to see how we stack up on the touches..


So I predicted somewhere between 125-140* touches this year, with a high as 175 (which might be too high).


Week 1
Rushing 4 for 42
Receiving 5 for 25

Week 2
Rushing 8 for 51
Receiving 4 for -2

Week 3
Rushing 9 for 45
Receiving 5 for 17

Week 4
Rushing 7 for 26
Receiving 3 for 12

Week 5
Rushing 4 for 8
Receiving 1 for 10

Week 6
BYE

Week 7
Rushing 10 for 38
Receiving 1 for -3

Week 8
Rushing 6 for 0
Receiving 3 for 28

Week 9
Rushing 7 for 36
Receiving 1 for 8

Week 10
Rushing 8 for 45
Receiving 6 for 48

Week 11
Rushing 8 for 39
Receiving 2 for 9

Week 12
Rushing 9 for 28
Receiving 2 for 11

Week 13
Rushing 9 for 61
Receiving 4 for 46 / 1 TD

Week 14
Rushing 4 for 1
Receiving 0 for 0

Week 15
Rushing 5 for 14
Receiving 2 for 11

Week 16
Rushing 3 for 15
Receiving 5 for 89

Week 17
Rushing 12 for 61 1 TD
Receiving 3 for 25
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Old 12-22-2011, 01:59 AM   #331
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"The first offensive play of a series is the return."...this is only in regards to kick returns though as punt returns are generally regarded as a defensive play.

I know Im playing a semantics game here, but I'm ok either way.

I think it would be best for an impartial jury of our peers to decide, one way or another.
yup, i was just about to say, with the wording you used, you should be able to count kickoff returns as offensive touches but you can't count punt returns.

and yes it is a ticky-tacky semantic call... but I GUARANTEE Clay wouldn't be above using it.
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Old 12-22-2011, 02:00 AM   #332
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yup, i was just about to say, with the wording you used, you should be able to count kickoff returns as offensive touches but you can't count punt returns.
I worded that with that intent in mind, actually.

Didnt want to be obvious about it, though.

With kick returns included, I have already won our bet as he would already have 161 "offensive touches" and that is over 10/game.
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Old 12-22-2011, 02:00 AM   #333
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"The first offensive play of a series is the return."...this is only in regards to kick returns though as punt returns are generally regarded as a defensive play.

I know Im playing a semantics game here, but I'm ok either way.

I think it would be best for an impartial jury of our peers to decide, one way or another.
Garbage.

Special teams touches are not offensive touches.

I wouldn't be stupid enough to take a bet where potentially 60+ touches could come from special teams.
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Old 12-22-2011, 02:02 AM   #334
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Did you even look at the conversation we're having before the bet? We're talking about the offense.


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when we play teams that are weak on the edges, he will get more carries because those types of runs (sweeps, stretches...etc) are his strength...when we play teams that are weak at DT (like Indy was only dressing 2 dts) but speedy ends, he will get less of a workload.

The gameplans are built on matchups.

I could have told you well before the indy game that DMC wouldn't get as many touches as he has in other games.

Its no coincidence that Battle got so many caries in a game when the opposing team was weak up the middle.

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Homers die hard.

Battle was getting even the freaking draw plays that McCluster usually runs on Sunday. McCluster is headed to the bench.
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Garbage.

Special teams touches are not offensive touches.

I wouldn't be stupid enough to take a bet where potentially 60+ touches could come from special teams.
Shoulda stated that then. All we have to go off from is what is in print.. and in print, it says offensive touches. A kick return IS an offensive touch.
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Like I said, I didn't want it to be obvious at the time the bet was made, but I worded it that way intentionally.

Its not really all that important, though.

Devil in the details and all.

A kick return IS an offensive play, always has been.
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Shoulda stated that then. All we have to go off from is what is in print.. and in print, it says offensive touches. A kick return IS an offensive touch.
An offensive touch on a special teams play.

Nice reasoning.

Nope, sorry. We were talking about McCluster's role on offense. That much is clear.

Why would I give a **** about kickoff returns...any idiot can touch the ball on a kickoff return. It doesn't take talent.
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"The first offensive play of a series is the return."..
Where the **** do you get this?

They don't count kickoff returns as part of drive charts...nor do they count kick return yards as part of offensive yards, or in offensive rankings.
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An offensive touch on a special teams play.

Nice reasoning.

Nope, sorry. We were talking about McCluster's role on offense. That much is clear.

Why would I give a **** about kickoff returns...any idiot can touch the ball on a kickoff return. It doesn't take talent.
Ever since my first time playing organized football, a kick return is considered an offensive play.

Ask any player on twitter if a kick return is the first offensive play of a series...or any coach...all of them will tell you that it is.

Its semantics, but its the truth.
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Ever since my first time playing organized football, a kick return is considered an offensive play.

Ask any player on twitter if a kick return is the first offensive play of a series...or any coach...all of them will tell you that it is.

Its semantics, but its the truth.
Yeah, that's why it's totally counted that way in NFL statistics and gamebooks.

You're not grandfathering that shit in, chief.

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Where the **** do you get this?

They don't count kickoff returns as part of drive charts...nor do they count kick return yards as part of offensive yards, or in offensive rankings.
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Quarterback be damned this season.


I still like McCluster and glad he is a Chief.

He hasn't quite done the things I have expected of him to do, but he has done fairly good with what he had at QB running the offense this season.

I do think that with a healthy dose of JC, McCluster can bring an extra jolt to the offense with a defense that has been chasing down JC. We havn't had that this year it's been a different game with just a sludge running attack.

McCluster has proven through the course of the year that he can hold his own for his little body.

IMO. We could have switched McCluster with Sproles from NO & McCluster would have had a better or just as productive outing as Spoles did there. Like wise if we had Darren Sproles he would have had struggled the same as Sproils has here. New O' leans has better coaching, 100X the quarterback & I'm sure McCluster would have had success doing what ever was asked of him like Sproils.
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I still like McCluster and glad he is a Chief.

He hasn't quite done the things I have expected of him to do, but he has done fairly good with what he had at QB running the offense this season.

I do think that with a healthy dose of JC, McCluster can bring an extra jolt to the offense with a defense that has been chasing down JC. We havn't had that this year it's been a different game with just a sludge running attack.

McCluster has proven through the course of the year that he can hold his own for his little body.

IMO. We could have switched McCluster with Sproils from NO & McCluster would have had a better or just as productive outing as Spoils did there. Like wise if we had Sproils he would have had struggled the same as Sproils has here. New O' leans has better coaching, 100X the quarterback & I'm sure McCluster would have had success doing what ever was asked of him like Sproils.
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