Chiefs Pioli Deserves Props - Page 23

Hoover · 04-29-2012, 09:12 AM

The NFL draft is a lot like Christmas morning. There is a lot of anticipation leading up to the big day, and when the time finally arrives to see what’s under the tree for us we can sometimes be a little disappointed.

We all remember the Christmas that we got everything we wanted. For Chiefs fans that was last year. We got a QB, WR, DBs, and LBs. Heck we even liked the more practical gifts like a Rodney Hudson. Frankly, the 2011 draft gave us a lot to play with, and we used them.

After a big year like 2011, some of you seem down. Sure we got the big present we always talk about (NT), but its’ not as cool as we thought it would be. We also ended up with some more practical gifts than we expected.

Here is how I view this draft, and to be honest I’m pretty stoked about it.

After having a draft like we did in 2011 where we seemed to hit on almost every pick, it wasn’t necessary for the Chiefs to snag additional pass rushers to sit behind guys like Hali and Houston. While we are still a little shallow when it comes to the safety position and could use some depth at center, the Chiefs are well positioned. In fact, I think the practicality of the 2012 Chiefs draft will allow them the flexibility in future drafts to aggressively seek out play makers to add to this team.

If there is one thing that I think Pioli deserves credit for, it’s rebuilding the Chiefs offensive live. While Albert was already hear when he arrived, Pioli not only filled a glaring hole at RT when he signed Eric Winston, but his last three drafts has set the Chiefs on a course to maintain a quality offensive line for years to come.

Many on this board recoiled at any suggestion that the Chiefs should use their first round pick on a lineman. After all the heated debates about the value of DeCastro, Pioli seems to agree with those who don’t want to invest first round picks on the line. Maybe instead of bitching that we didn’t have the Steelers’ draft, some of you should praise Pioli for doing exactly what you advocated for.

In the last three years, Pioli has taken four offensive linemen in the 2nd and 3rd rounds of the draft. Asamoah and Hudson are now starters. Jeff Allen is going to push Ryan Lilja for a starting spot at guard, but is more likely to be seasoned for a year before finding a permanent home on the life. I know it’s sometimes hard to get excited about the offensive line, but Pioli obviously has a process that seems to be working really well.

Picking back-to-back tackles isn’t as exciting as drafting guys like Justin Houston or Javier Arenas, but it feeds a system that can produce quality linemen that allows the Chiefs not use first round picks on offensive tackles, guards, or centers. It also means that the Chiefs will not be forced to commit free agent dollars on those positions either.

We are lucky to have landed Winston this offseason. Without him there would probably be no Poe. I like how Pioli is building this team. While I continue to be frustrated about Cassel, finding a franchise QB is never easy. We have had three solid drafts under Pioli and we can already see the results. Yes we need to find a QB, but at least we are building a strong team while we continue to look for him.

Hammock Parties · 04-29-2012, 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Just Passin' By

You're really going down this path now?

Brady was 1 for 3 in 2000, before becoming the backup in 2001. Using your logic, Brodie Croyle, post 2007, would have been the better backup choice in that situation.

Lucky for the Patriots, Bill Belichick was pretty smart.

His decision to make Brady the backup turned out well.

Do you have confidence that Pioli's decision with our backup quarterback situation is equally smart?

**Donger** · 04-29-2012, 04:47 PM

I love this time of year. CP members vehemently arguing about the future which they can't see.

**J Diddy** · 04-29-2012, 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Satanic Goat

Backup quarterbacks aren't expensive. In any era.

Orton laughs at you.

Hammock Parties · 04-29-2012, 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Coogs

When did you become a Cassel fan?

I'm not a Cassel fan.

It's a hypothetical situation.

Odds are we are 4-8, Cassel sprains an ACL, and we all celebrate.

Then Ricky Stanzi takes over, is even worse, and we celebrate Pioli's impending dismissal.

Rasputin · 04-29-2012, 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Satanic Goat

This isn't relevant.

But Pioli must be incredibly smart if he already knows Ricky Stanzi is a legit backup QB who can keep the ship afloat in the event of disaster during a championship run.

I don't want Ricky Stanzi to be back up and there are quite a few fans like me who want to see Ricky Stanzi become our starting QB. Take the backup arguement and shove it up your ass. We need a starting QB like others have said. Quinn can be our backup and Cassel can be third where he belongs.

Hammock Parties · 04-29-2012, 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by J Diddy

Orton laughs at you.

Orton was not expensive. Only according to that dicklick running our franchise.

**Ming the Merciless** · 04-29-2012, 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Fritz88

Only people with tiny dicks hate Pioli.

Hammock Parties · 04-29-2012, 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by KC Tattoo

I don't want Ricky Stanzi to be back up

Too bad, he is. You must hate Scott Pioli then. Welcome.

**BigMeatballDave** · 04-29-2012, 04:51 PM

I'm not sure which is worse, those who love the Chiefs to a fault, or those who hate every aspect.

**Ming the Merciless** · 04-29-2012, 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Dave

I'm not sure which is worse, those who love the Chiefs to a fault, or those who hate every aspect.

That's because you're an idiot.

You're probably not sure whether you like hairy butthole or vagina either...

If I had a quarter for everything you weren't sure of I'd be making Mark Castle type money.

Hammock Parties · 04-29-2012, 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Dave

I'm not sure which is worse, those who love the Chiefs to a fault, or those who hate every aspect.

I love my Chiefs.

I hate the assholes stopping them from winning championships.

Short list:

Scott Pioli

Bewbies · 04-29-2012, 04:54 PM

Stop feeding the troll.

**Ming the Merciless** · 04-29-2012, 04:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Satanic Goat

I love my Chiefs.

I hate the assholes stopping them from winning championships.

Short list:

1) Scott Pioli

2) Dave , who wishes injuries upon our players.

Just Passin' By · 04-29-2012, 04:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Satanic Goat

Lucky for the Patriots, Bill Belichick was pretty smart.

His decision to make Brady the backup turned out well.

Do you have confidence that Pioli's decision with our backup quarterback situation is equally smart?

I have confidence that Pioli will bring in someone he has reason to think can handle the job of a backup QB. In today's NFL, the job of a backup QB is to mop up at the end of games, come in for a few plays or series while a QB gets looked at, and replace a QB as starter for a game or two. If you need anything more than that, you're pretty much screwed unless you've got a Baltimore Ravens 2000 type of defense.

For all your trolling, Tyler Palko has a better record as a backup quarterback than Brodie Croyle, and Brady Quinn's at least won a couple of games in the NFL.

**BigMeatballDave** · 04-29-2012, 04:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pawnmower

That's because you're an idiot.

You're probably not sure whether you like hairy butthole or vagina either...

If I had a quarter for everything you weren't sure of I'd be making Mark Castle type money.

04-29-2012, 09:12 AM
Hoover Rufus Dawes Jr. Join Date: Aug 2000 Casino cash: $1168179	Pioli Deserves Props The NFL draft is a lot like Christmas morning. There is a lot of anticipation leading up to the big day, and when the time finally arrives to see what’s under the tree for us we can sometimes be a little disappointed. We all remember the Christmas that we got everything we wanted. For Chiefs fans that was last year. We got a QB, WR, DBs, and LBs. Heck we even liked the more practical gifts like a Rodney Hudson. Frankly, the 2011 draft gave us a lot to play with, and we used them. After a big year like 2011, some of you seem down. Sure we got the big present we always talk about (NT), but its’ not as cool as we thought it would be. We also ended up with some more practical gifts than we expected. Here is how I view this draft, and to be honest I’m pretty stoked about it. After having a draft like we did in 2011 where we seemed to hit on almost every pick, it wasn’t necessary for the Chiefs to snag additional pass rushers to sit behind guys like Hali and Houston. While we are still a little shallow when it comes to the safety position and could use some depth at center, the Chiefs are well positioned. In fact, I think the practicality of the 2012 Chiefs draft will allow them the flexibility in future drafts to aggressively seek out play makers to add to this team. If there is one thing that I think Pioli deserves credit for, it’s rebuilding the Chiefs offensive live. While Albert was already hear when he arrived, Pioli not only filled a glaring hole at RT when he signed Eric Winston, but his last three drafts has set the Chiefs on a course to maintain a quality offensive line for years to come. Many on this board recoiled at any suggestion that the Chiefs should use their first round pick on a lineman. After all the heated debates about the value of DeCastro, Pioli seems to agree with those who don’t want to invest first round picks on the line. Maybe instead of bitching that we didn’t have the Steelers’ draft, some of you should praise Pioli for doing exactly what you advocated for. In the last three years, Pioli has taken four offensive linemen in the 2nd and 3rd rounds of the draft. Asamoah and Hudson are now starters. Jeff Allen is going to push Ryan Lilja for a starting spot at guard, but is more likely to be seasoned for a year before finding a permanent home on the life. I know it’s sometimes hard to get excited about the offensive line, but Pioli obviously has a process that seems to be working really well. Picking back-to-back tackles isn’t as exciting as drafting guys like Justin Houston or Javier Arenas, but it feeds a system that can produce quality linemen that allows the Chiefs not use first round picks on offensive tackles, guards, or centers. It also means that the Chiefs will not be forced to commit free agent dollars on those positions either. We are lucky to have landed Winston this offseason. Without him there would probably be no Poe. I like how Pioli is building this team. While I continue to be frustrated about Cassel, finding a franchise QB is never easy. We have had three solid drafts under Pioli and we can already see the results. Yes we need to find a QB, but at least we are building a strong team while we continue to look for him.
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