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Exclusive: As troubles at home simmered, Chiefs tried to help Jovan Belcher
Police said the team was providing counseling to Jovan Belcher and his girlfriend, Kasandra Perkins. But Belcher, before taking his own life in the parking lot of the Chiefs’ practice facility, said it wasn’t enough to fix their problems.
By CHRISTINE VENDEL
The Kansas City Star

Seconds after fatally shooting his longtime girlfriend, Kansas City Chiefs linebacker Jovan Belcher leaned over her in their master bathroom, said he was sorry and kissed her on the forehead.

His mother, who heard gunfire as she stood in the kitchen, rushed to her son’s bedroom and watched his remorseful goodbye.

Belcher apologized to his mother, kissed his 3-month-old daughter and fled his rented home in the 5400 block of Crysler Avenue in his Bentley.

The Star learned those details and others from multiple police sources Monday as officers continued their investigation into why Belcher, 25, killed his live-in girlfriend, Kasandra Perkins, 22, on Saturday morning. Arguments over relationship and financial issues had simmered for months between them, according to the sources.

Belcher’s mother, who came from New York to live with her son so the couple could work through their issues, didn’t hear much of the argument. But just before 8 a.m., she heard her son say something to the effect of: “You can’t talk to me like that!”

Then she heard gunfire.

Afterward, Belcher drove to the only place he felt safe — to his other family at Arrowhead Stadium, police said.

As he covered the five miles from his home to the stadium, his violent act weighed on him, police believe.

“He probably realized he had done something and he couldn’t go back,” said Police Sgt. Richard Sharp.

In the parking lot of the practice facility at 1 Arrowhead Drive, Belcher encountered Chiefs General Manager Scott Pioli. Belcher stepped out of his Bentley with a gun pointed at his own head, police said.

“I did it,” he said, according to police. “I killed her.”

Club officials knew about the couple’s problems. The Chiefs had provided counseling and “were bending over backward” to help, Sharp said.

But Belcher told Pioli that the assistance wasn’t enough to fix their problems and now, “It was too late.”

When another Chiefs employee arrived, Pioli told him to stay back. Meanwhile Pioli tried to persuade Belcher to lay down the weapon, Sharp said.

Belcher thanked Pioli for everything he had done for him. He asked if he and Clark Hunt would take care of his daughter.

Chiefs Head Coach Romeo Crennel and linebackers coach Gary Gibbs arrived in the parking lot and Belcher reportedly announced, “Guys, I have to do this.”

Crennel tried to dissuade him.

“I was trying to get him to understand that life is not over,” Crennel told The Star. “He still has a chance and let’s get this worked out.’’

As Pioli and Crennel tried to reason with Belcher, the men heard police sirens closing in. Belcher then walked a few steps away with the gun still pointed at his head.

“I got to go,” Belcher reportedly said. “I can’t be here.”

Belcher knelt behind a vehicle and made the sign of the cross across his chest before firing a single bullet into his head.

Kansas City police believe Belcher killed himself because he was distraught over what he had done to Perkins.

“He cared about her,” Sharp said. “I don’t think he could live with himself.”

The night before the killings, Perkins had attended a concert downtown with friends, and Belcher had “partied” at the Power and Light District, police said. It was unclear when they arrived home, where Belcher’s mother was watching their baby. A woman who answered Belcher’s mother’s cell phone Monday declined to comment.

Detectives don’t know what specifically sparked the argument between the couple at home, but a friend of Perkins told The Star that the couple argued around 1 a.m. Saturday when Perkins returned home from the Trey Songz concert and drinks with friends afterward. Belcher was mad she had stayed out so late, the friend said.

Sometime later, Kansas City police talked with Belcher after finding him asleep in his Bentley on Armour Boulevard. Officers determined he was able to drive himself home. Police believe he arrived home about 7 a.m., well before a 9:30 team meeting. That’s when the yelling began.

Police said youth, immaturity and financial pressures served as a backdrop. During his college years, Belcher allegedly punched a dormitory window because he was upset over a woman.

Autopsies with toxicology tests were performed on both bodies, but results will take weeks, police said. Investigators believe alcohol may have played a role in the argument’s escalation.

Police recovered several legally owned guns from Belcher’s home. Investigators were testing each one, and the gun found with Belcher’s body, against shell casings and bullets they recovered.

Police spokesman Darin Snapp said Monday that Belcher’s mother, who had been staying with the couple, was given temporary custody of the couple’s daughter. But he said it was unclear if the grandmother and baby were still in the Kansas City area.

Perkins, who grew up in Texas, met Belcher, who grew up in New York, through a cousin, Whitney Golden Charles, the wife of Chiefs running back Jamaal Charles. Perkins moved to Kansas City in 2010 to be with Belcher. Her relatives learned of her death from the news, police said. A woman who answered the phone at a relative’s home Monday declined to comment.

Monday afternoon, the family issued a statement that spelled Perkins’ first name with a double s, though she spelled it with one on her Facebook page:

“On behalf of the Perkins Family, we appreciate the outpouring of love and concern for our Kassandra ‘Kasi’ Perkins. Our hearts are truly broken for Kasi was a beloved daughter, granddaughter, sister, mother, cousin and friend.…

“Please keep us in your hearts and prayers as well as the Belcher family for two lives were loss. Again we thank you for your support, our wish is for Kasi to be remembered for the love she shared with us all. Kasi will be truly missed!”

Jamaal Charles also released a statement: “Our family has suffered a personal tragic loss.… As this is a very tough time for our family, I ask that we are respected as we grieve. Kassandra was not only family, but a friend and a loving mother. As my actual family and my Kansas City Chiefs family have been altered forever, we ask that you keep us and most importantly their child in prayer. Thank you all for your continued support.”

Later Monday, Belcher’s somber relatives provided statements outside of Belcher’s boyhood home in New York. Yamiesse Lawrence, a cousin of Belcher’s, said the weekend’s events were an “inconceivable tragedy.”

“As a family, no words can express the sorrow we feel over the loss of Jovan and Kasandra,” Lawrence read aloud.

Read more here: http://www.kansascity.com/2012/12/04...#storylink=cpy

Sorter · 12-04-2012, 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by FAX

The police were well aware that Sam "The Bull" Gravano was a huge Sinatra fan.

And Richard "Ice Man" Kuklinski never missed a performance of Cats.

FAX

I could have sworn reading somewhere they found out he had lied about his "hits".

Probably wrong though.

Molitoth · 12-04-2012, 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by ARROW2

Yeah but being at a concert is not why she is dead......

I was just trying to say that her being at a concert, and the mention of Jovan not being home much leads me to believe their relationship WAS infact heavily strained due to Kasi feeling the hardship of giving up her social life to raise to a child and possibly feeling like she was doing the job of a single parent.

Some people, especially younger people don't realize the sacrifice it takes to raise a child. Being a single parent is difficult, so of course their relationship was strained. Something they should've thought about before having a child.

BIG_DADDY · 12-04-2012, 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Driving Wheel

Some people don't care...others do.

What a noble mother ****er. Go help somebody then instead of bitching non-stop on a BB all day.

durtyrute · 12-04-2012, 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Driving Wheel

Lots of gangbangers bumping Kind Of Blue or Giant Steps, huh??

Torturing people to Kenny Burrell??

are you kidding??

Do you even ****ing KNOW anyone who listens to jazz??

Obviously not.

Dude...the culture that perpetuates this type of behavior permeates from the God-awful mass communication empire that constantly pushes this ignorant thug-life mentality to radio, TV, etc. Sex, drugs, etc. Three And a Half Men is a perfect example : horrible scenarios where a young pre-adolescent or adolescent is exposed to sex, alcohol, etc. Dick and fart jokes. And it's the number one rated show on TV, and people think it's funny...but it's putrid. They don't know any better. Same with the music; it's what gets pushed, so people don't know any better.

The result : a dumbed-down impetuous society, fixated on sex, money and power. It's cool to be dumb, and not speak properly, and to be promiscuous, etc. As a society, we're more fixated on becoming mechanical economic vessels than learning how to love ourselves, each other, and our earth which gives us the very life that allows our existance.

Having honor, integrity, chivalry, etc. are dead concepts.

Rep to the highest power

rabblerouser · 12-04-2012, 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by loochy

He just brought up Three and a Half Men. I don't think gang bangers watch that.

now, now...don't bring up this logical shit again - bold highlight the part that suits your agenda and address only that, dammit!!

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Originally Posted by Sorter

Not anymore. Everyone loves a Sheen. Nobody gives a **** about Ashton Kutcher.

is just me, or is Kutcher the world's largest bag of douche??

BIG_DADDY · 12-04-2012, 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Driving Wheel

yes...I used Three and a Half Men as an example as well.

However, we are discussing a particular incident, and the Trey Songz thing puts it over the top to me.

like, 'hey, don't go listen to a guy singing songs 'I'ma Hit Dat' and 'Panty Wetter' or 'Panty Dropper'. He sucks. It's terrible music, and I can't fathom anyone who has a moral compass would subject themselves to anything like that while they have a 3-month-old at home and their football playing boyfriend is out getting hammered with another girl when he has team meeting and practice first thing in the AM.

A good partner would have been home with the other partner, getting things ready for the next day's events, making plans...and working together. That's how partnerships work.

Thank you captain obvious. There were no angles here.

Sorter · 12-04-2012, 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Driving Wheel

is just me, or is Kutcher the world's largest bag of douche??

CoMoChief · 12-04-2012, 11:48 AM

How much you wanna bet he's taking Rx drugs for concussion syndromes and along w/ alcohol, made him snap.

ARROW2 · 12-04-2012, 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Driving Wheel

yes...I used Three and a Half Men as an example as well.

However, we are discussing a particular incident, and the Trey Songz thing puts it over the top to me.

like, 'hey, don't go listen to a guy singing songs 'I'ma Hit Dat' and 'Panty Wetter' or 'Panty Dropper'. He sucks. It's terrible music, and I can't fathom anyone who has a moral compass would subject themselves to anything like that while they have a 3-month-old at home and their football playing boyfriend is out getting hammered with another girl when he has team meeting and practice first thing in the AM.

A good partner would have been home with the other partner, getting things ready for the next day's events, making plans...and working together. That's how partnerships work.

How many KKK listened to songs like that.......hmmmmm.. I wonder what Hitler listened to...

rabblerouser · 12-04-2012, 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by BIG_DADDY

What a noble mother ****er. Go help somebody then instead of bitching non-stop on a BB all day.

opening for Tab Benoit tonight...

van ride from KC to Jeff City...so technically, I'm at work.

You don't like reading my self-righteous psycho-babble?? Big words make your head hurt??

Then put me on ignore and **** off, Jack.

memyselfI · 12-04-2012, 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Sorter

Not anymore. Everyone loves a Sheen. Nobody gives a **** about Ashton Kutcher.

This,this, soooooo this.

Pass on the bleach, I'll take a margarita though.

rabblerouser · 12-04-2012, 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by ARROW2

How many KKK listened to songs like that.......hmmmmm.. I wonder what Hitler listened to...

Huh??

Dude, your syntax is off in that sentence; if you actually want me to respond, make it a coherant statement, first off.

Secondly, your thinly-veiled and extremly juvenile race-baiting bullshit is just pathetic.

Stop it. Just because I know that most hip-hop/rap (and heavy metal) since '97 is redundant garbage and doesn't even qualify as 'music' on anything but the most rudimentary of levels doesn't make a racist, you ignorant ****ing dolt.

It just means I've been paying attention.

memyselfI · 12-04-2012, 11:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Driving Wheel

Lots of gangbangers bumping Kind Of Blue or Giant Steps, huh??

Torturing people to Kenny Burrell??

are you kidding??

Do you even ****ing KNOW anyone who listens to jazz??

Obviously not.

Dude...the culture that perpetuates this type of behavior permeates from the God-awful mass communication empire that constantly pushes this ignorant thug-life mentality to radio, TV, etc. Sex, drugs, etc. Three And a Half Men is a perfect example : horrible scenarios where a young pre-adolescent or adolescent is exposed to sex, alcohol, etc. Dick and fart jokes. And it's the number one rated show on TV, and people think it's funny...but it's putrid. They don't know any better. Same with the music; it's what gets pushed, so people don't know any better.

The result : a dumbed-down impetuous society, fixated on sex, money and power. It's cool to be dumb, and not speak properly, and to be promiscuous, etc. As a society, we're more fixated on becoming mechanical economic vessels than learning how to love ourselves, each other, and our earth which gives us the very life that allows our existance.

Having honor, integrity, chivalry, etc. are dead concepts.

I loved that show with Charlie. Now I love his new show but it's not nearly as raunchy as I hope it will be. That is just his character and I laugh my ass off because it's SO FOREIGN to me.

Angus T. Jones is sure doggin it while still collecting his paycheck and royalties...

rabblerouser · 12-04-2012, 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Sorter

Oh yeah...forgot about Phyllis.

ARROW2 · 12-04-2012, 11:54 AM

How about I add a question mark and stick it up your uptight ass?

12-04-2012, 12:57 AM
ShowtimeSBMVP Chiefs Join Date: Feb 2009 Casino cash: $1206009	Jovan Belcher was one sick son of B**** Exclusive: As troubles at home simmered, Chiefs tried to help Jovan Belcher Police said the team was providing counseling to Jovan Belcher and his girlfriend, Kasandra Perkins. But Belcher, before taking his own life in the parking lot of the Chiefs’ practice facility, said it wasn’t enough to fix their problems. By CHRISTINE VENDEL The Kansas City Star Seconds after fatally shooting his longtime girlfriend, Kansas City Chiefs linebacker Jovan Belcher leaned over her in their master bathroom, said he was sorry and kissed her on the forehead. His mother, who heard gunfire as she stood in the kitchen, rushed to her son’s bedroom and watched his remorseful goodbye. Belcher apologized to his mother, kissed his 3-month-old daughter and fled his rented home in the 5400 block of Crysler Avenue in his Bentley. The Star learned those details and others from multiple police sources Monday as officers continued their investigation into why Belcher, 25, killed his live-in girlfriend, Kasandra Perkins, 22, on Saturday morning. Arguments over relationship and financial issues had simmered for months between them, according to the sources. Belcher’s mother, who came from New York to live with her son so the couple could work through their issues, didn’t hear much of the argument. But just before 8 a.m., she heard her son say something to the effect of: “You can’t talk to me like that!” Then she heard gunfire. Afterward, Belcher drove to the only place he felt safe — to his other family at Arrowhead Stadium, police said. As he covered the five miles from his home to the stadium, his violent act weighed on him, police believe. “He probably realized he had done something and he couldn’t go back,” said Police Sgt. Richard Sharp. In the parking lot of the practice facility at 1 Arrowhead Drive, Belcher encountered Chiefs General Manager Scott Pioli. Belcher stepped out of his Bentley with a gun pointed at his own head, police said. “I did it,” he said, according to police. “I killed her.” Club officials knew about the couple’s problems. The Chiefs had provided counseling and “were bending over backward” to help, Sharp said. But Belcher told Pioli that the assistance wasn’t enough to fix their problems and now, “It was too late.” When another Chiefs employee arrived, Pioli told him to stay back. Meanwhile Pioli tried to persuade Belcher to lay down the weapon, Sharp said. Belcher thanked Pioli for everything he had done for him. He asked if he and Clark Hunt would take care of his daughter. Chiefs Head Coach Romeo Crennel and linebackers coach Gary Gibbs arrived in the parking lot and Belcher reportedly announced, “Guys, I have to do this.” Crennel tried to dissuade him. “I was trying to get him to understand that life is not over,” Crennel told The Star. “He still has a chance and let’s get this worked out.’’ As Pioli and Crennel tried to reason with Belcher, the men heard police sirens closing in. Belcher then walked a few steps away with the gun still pointed at his head. “I got to go,” Belcher reportedly said. “I can’t be here.” Belcher knelt behind a vehicle and made the sign of the cross across his chest before firing a single bullet into his head. Kansas City police believe Belcher killed himself because he was distraught over what he had done to Perkins. “He cared about her,” Sharp said. “I don’t think he could live with himself.” The night before the killings, Perkins had attended a concert downtown with friends, and Belcher had “partied” at the Power and Light District, police said. It was unclear when they arrived home, where Belcher’s mother was watching their baby. A woman who answered Belcher’s mother’s cell phone Monday declined to comment. Detectives don’t know what specifically sparked the argument between the couple at home, but a friend of Perkins told The Star that the couple argued around 1 a.m. Saturday when Perkins returned home from the Trey Songz concert and drinks with friends afterward. Belcher was mad she had stayed out so late, the friend said. Sometime later, Kansas City police talked with Belcher after finding him asleep in his Bentley on Armour Boulevard. Officers determined he was able to drive himself home. Police believe he arrived home about 7 a.m., well before a 9:30 team meeting. That’s when the yelling began. Police said youth, immaturity and financial pressures served as a backdrop. During his college years, Belcher allegedly punched a dormitory window because he was upset over a woman. Autopsies with toxicology tests were performed on both bodies, but results will take weeks, police said. Investigators believe alcohol may have played a role in the argument’s escalation. Police recovered several legally owned guns from Belcher’s home. Investigators were testing each one, and the gun found with Belcher’s body, against shell casings and bullets they recovered. Police spokesman Darin Snapp said Monday that Belcher’s mother, who had been staying with the couple, was given temporary custody of the couple’s daughter. But he said it was unclear if the grandmother and baby were still in the Kansas City area. Perkins, who grew up in Texas, met Belcher, who grew up in New York, through a cousin, Whitney Golden Charles, the wife of Chiefs running back Jamaal Charles. Perkins moved to Kansas City in 2010 to be with Belcher. Her relatives learned of her death from the news, police said. A woman who answered the phone at a relative’s home Monday declined to comment. Monday afternoon, the family issued a statement that spelled Perkins’ first name with a double s, though she spelled it with one on her Facebook page: “On behalf of the Perkins Family, we appreciate the outpouring of love and concern for our Kassandra ‘Kasi’ Perkins. Our hearts are truly broken for Kasi was a beloved daughter, granddaughter, sister, mother, cousin and friend.… “Please keep us in your hearts and prayers as well as the Belcher family for two lives were loss. Again we thank you for your support, our wish is for Kasi to be remembered for the love she shared with us all. Kasi will be truly missed!” Jamaal Charles also released a statement: “Our family has suffered a personal tragic loss.… As this is a very tough time for our family, I ask that we are respected as we grieve. Kassandra was not only family, but a friend and a loving mother. As my actual family and my Kansas City Chiefs family have been altered forever, we ask that you keep us and most importantly their child in prayer. Thank you all for your continued support.” Later Monday, Belcher’s somber relatives provided statements outside of Belcher’s boyhood home in New York. Yamiesse Lawrence, a cousin of Belcher’s, said the weekend’s events were an “inconceivable tragedy.” “As a family, no words can express the sorrow we feel over the loss of Jovan and Kasandra,” Lawrence read aloud. Read more here: http://www.kansascity.com/2012/12/04...#storylink=cpy Last edited by ShowtimeSBMVP; 12-04-2012 at 01:20 AM..
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