Nate Taylor: Chiefs expected to franchise OBJ again [not happening]

[The Franchise]

Brown is technically the Chiefs’ top free agent, though for the second consecutive year, he might never reach the open market. Similar to last year, the Chiefs are expected to place the franchise tag on Brown, which will prevent him from becoming an unrestricted free agent. Such a move will allow both parties more time to negotiate a lucrative contract extension. If the parties cannot agree to a deal by the middle of July, Brown would once again be restricted to a one-year salary of $18.4 million, according to Over The Cap.

https://theathletic.com/4161606/2023...3&redirected=1

The Athletic's Nate Taylor writes the Chiefs are "expected" to place the franchise tag on LT Orlando Brown again.

Brown played on the tag last year, briefly threatening to not report to camp before showing up on time. Since coming over for the Ravens in a trade, Brown has been stellar if not exceptional, and would probably profile as one of the five best free agents on the market if he got there. Taylor also writes that Brown turned down a six-year, $139 million deal with a $30.25 million signing bonus last offseason.

Not really new news...but he won't be hitting the open market at least.

Originally Posted by ShowtimeSBMVP

In a surprise twist, the Chiefs will not be franchise tagging left tackle Orlando Brown, per source. He’s set to be a free agent March 13. The player has been notified.

— Jeremy Fowler (@JFowlerESPN) March 6, 2023

[Pasta Little Brioni]

Originally Posted by The Franchise

The top 15? What picks do you think someone is trading us for OBJ? And how many of our picks are you trading away for the CHANCE at drafting a new LT?

We got OBJ for what was basically a 2nd round pick because he was on his rookie deal. Who is trading more than that for a guy who now absolutely needs a new deal?

And then you’re going to turn around, take those picks and use more of ours to trade up to take a guy who may or may not turn out to be better than OBJ….all so you can sign JuJu. Jesus ****ing Christ.

Amazing isn't it? Good lord Madden really does rot brains.

[milkshock]

Originally Posted by The Franchise

The top 15? What picks do you think someone is trading us for OBJ? And how many of our picks are you trading away for the CHANCE at drafting a new LT?

We got OBJ for what was basically a 2nd round pick because he was on his rookie deal. Who is trading more than that for a guy who now absolutely needs a new deal?

And then you’re going to turn around, take those picks and use more of ours to trade up to take a guy who may or may not turn out to be better than OBJ….all so you can sign JuJu. Jesus ****ing Christ.

Swap firsts, Give away your 3rd and next years 1st and you get in the top 15 no problem. We will pick in the low 20s at best next season so no real problem. You still have 2 seconds this year as well, assuming you get a second for OBJ.

Its about other players as well not just JuJu. Bolton, Sneed who I assume we all want to resign.

This is all about what OBJ wants anyway. I agree there is a point where Veach would sign him - there is also a point where he wont. And each eventuality has to be covered.

[tredadda]

Originally Posted by The Franchise

The top 15? What picks do you think someone is trading us for OBJ? And how many of our picks are you trading away for the CHANCE at drafting a new LT?

We got OBJ for what was basically a 2nd round pick because he was on his rookie deal. Who is trading more than that for a guy who now absolutely needs a new deal?

And then you’re going to turn around, take those picks and use more of ours to trade up to take a guy who may or may not turn out to be better than OBJ….all so you can sign JuJu. Jesus ****ing Christ.

Yeah, I can't see any GM being stupid enough to give up high picks for the right to pay Brown a market setting deal.

[tredadda]

Originally Posted by milkshock

Swap firsts, Give away your 3rd and next years 1st and you get in the top 15 no problem. We will pick in the low 20s at best next season so no real problem. You still have 2 seconds this year as well, assuming you get a second for OBJ.

Its about other players as well not just JuJu.

This is all about what OBJ wants anyway. I agree there is a point where Veach would sign him - there is also a point where he wont. And each eventuality has to be covered.

This is a horrible idea for anything but a franchise QB. What LT in the draft this year is worth giving up that much for?

[Sassy Squatch]

Originally Posted by tredadda

Yeah, I can't see any GM being stupid enough to give up high picks for the right to pay Brown a market setting deal.

You underestimate the incompetence of some of these GMs. It just takes one.

[milkshock]

Originally Posted by tredadda

This is a horrible idea for anything but a franchise QB. What LT in the draft this year is worth giving up that much for?

theres a couple of tackles routinely mocked in the top 15 - Paris Johnson, Broderick Jones.

Although I havent done that much research on either.

[Pasta Little Brioni]

Chiefs aren't moving into the top 15

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by BWillie

Jordan Black sucked but Mahomes would be fine

[milkshock]

Originally Posted by Pasta Little Brother

Chiefs aren't moving into the top 15

Fine pay OBJ like he's Trent Williams then.

[Chris Meck]

Well, there are rational arguments to be made here on both sides.

I think OBJ played well down the stretch, and that was heartening to see. He also had stretches where he was pretty bad. I don't think anyone could really argue that isn't true. I think that, to me, that averages out to a decent, mid-level starting LT. I'm not seeing much UPSIDE at this point, I think it's pretty set that this is who Brown is.

If he wanted a square deal, on par with what he's put on tape, I would totally be in favor of that.

Last offseason says otherwise. He wanted not only a record setting deal, but every cent guaranteed over the life of the contract. I just think that's absurd. Hill didn't even want that, was ACTUALLY elite and not just wanting to be paid as such, and we hit a line in the sand and wouldn't cross it.

We can live with average LT play, we just can't OVERPAY for it. I think there would be possible trade targets that could provide decent LT play, like Dillard, or Nijman and cost much less.

And there's the draft. Or some combination of both, most likely.

So the one thing that I reject out of hand in all of this is that it's Brown or dogshit.

[Sassy Squatch]

Originally Posted by Chris Meck

Well, there are rational arguments to be made here on both sides.

I think OBJ played well down the stretch, and that was heartening to see. He also had stretches where he was pretty bad. I don't think anyone could really argue that isn't true. I think that, to me, that averages out to a decent, mid-level starting LT. I'm not seeing much UPSIDE at this point, I think it's pretty set that this is who Brown is.

If he wanted a square deal, on par with what he's put on tape, I would totally be in favor of that.

Last offseason says otherwise. He wanted not only a record setting deal, but every cent guaranteed over the life of the contract. I just think that's absurd. Hill didn't even want that, was ACTUALLY elite and not just wanting to be paid as such, and we hit a line in the sand and wouldn't cross it.

We can live with average LT play, we just can't OVERPAY for it. I think there would be possible trade targets that could provide decent LT play, like Dillard, or Nijman and cost much less.

And there's the draft. Or some combination of both, most likely.

So the one thing that I reject out of hand in all of this is that it's Brown or dogshit.

Yep. Figuring he's gone unless he fires that agent and gets with someone that actually understands what's going on

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by Superturtle

https://youtu.be/ekL881PJMjI

Me being interested in the discussion has nothing to do with being emotionally invested in re-signing OBJ.

I enjoy the discussion. I don't care what they do with OBJ.

Nice try though.

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by milkshock

If - and I appreciate it may be a big if, we can get into the top 15 with the ammo we have, we then may have a cheap franchise LT for the next 5 years. Which we can then parlay into keeping the key components on defense intact, plus probably hold onto JuJu should we wish.

We are not trading into the top 15. JFC.

[Sassy Squatch]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

Me being interested in the discussion has nothing to do with being emotionally invested in re-signing OBJ.

I enjoy the discussion. I don't care what they do with OBJ.

Nice try though.

It's a shit post. Relax.

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by Chris Meck

Well, there are rational arguments to be made here on both sides.

I think OBJ played well down the stretch, and that was heartening to see. He also had stretches where he was pretty bad. I don't think anyone could really argue that isn't true. I think that, to me, that averages out to a decent, mid-level starting LT. I'm not seeing much UPSIDE at this point, I think it's pretty set that this is who Brown is.

If he wanted a square deal, on par with what he's put on tape, I would totally be in favor of that.

Last offseason says otherwise. He wanted not only a record setting deal, but every cent guaranteed over the life of the contract. I just think that's absurd. Hill didn't even want that, was ACTUALLY elite and not just wanting to be paid as such, and we hit a line in the sand and wouldn't cross it.

We can live with average LT play, we just can't OVERPAY for it. I think there would be possible trade targets that could provide decent LT play, like Dillard, or Nijman and cost much less.

And there's the draft. Or some combination of both, most likely.

So the one thing that I reject out of hand in all of this is that it's Brown or dogshit.

Of course it's not Brown or dogshit. But even you have to admit that there's a very real possibility Brown walks and we end up with nothing to replace him. Even trading into the top half of the first round doesn't guarantee anything.