Royals ***Official 2023 Royals Season Repository Thread*** - Page 230

ChiefsCountry · 12:29 PM

2023 – A new beginning for the Royals. Matt Quatraro era begins. A year to see which of our young players will make up the core going forward. Can Bobby Witt Jr become a superstar SS or will go to the hot corner? Will Brady Singer take the next step forward? Will Salvy be Salvy? Will Big Vin or Pratto take first base? Will they find a position for MJ? Who else emerges from the youth movement? Not to mention the development of the new downtown stadium.

Free Agents/Trades Acquisitions
Jordan Lyles, RHP
Ryan Yarbrough, LHP
Josh Taylor, LHP
Aroldis Chapman, LHP

Top 10 Prospects from Baseball America
1. Gavin Cross, OF
2. Cayden Wallace, 3B
3. Drew Waters, OF
4. Ben Kudrna, RHP
5. Frank Mozzicato, LHP
6. Maikel Garcia, SS
7. Tyler Gentry, OF
8. Nick Loftin, OF/3B
9. Angel Zerpa, LHP
10. Carter Jensen, C

TomBarndtsTwin · 07-27-2023, 08:32 AM

Remember last year and the off season when almost everyone on here kept saying BWJ sucks at defense and should be moved off SS:

The Royals have two of the top 7 rated defenders via OAA. Bobby is now 2nd to Wander Franco in all of MLB. pic.twitter.com/9HKAlpCFrw
— Joel Penfield (@jtpenfield) July 27, 2023

Pepperidge Farm remembers . . . . .

Mecca · 07-27-2023, 08:38 AM

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Originally Posted by BWillie

Were you guys really expecting to win this year? I expected 110+ losses. I was hoping our pitching took off instead of tanked but we have some young bats that are getting better. If you squint really hard you might be able to see this team peaking around .500 in a few years if they spend some money on SPs but that is about the ceiling.

Do you know how hard it is to be this bad? Like teams that tanked on purpose weren't this bad.

duncan_idaho · 07-27-2023, 09:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Al Bundy

Players that should not be on the team next week. Replenish the farm system.
Sal Perez
Bobby Witt Jr.
Brady Singer
Scott Barlow
Carlos Hernandez
Nicky Lopez

I've got no problem with 5/6 of that list.

Keep Bobby Witt Jr. Trade the rest.

Considering the White Sox just got a top 100 prospect and a nice additional prospect for 1/2 season of Lucas Guilito and 1/2 season of Reynaldo Lopez, I'd think KC can get a better return if pairing Singer and one of Barlow or Carlos Hernandez.

Mecca · 07-27-2023, 09:10 AM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho

I've got no problem with 5/6 of that list.

Keep Bobby Witt Jr. Trade the rest.

Considering the White Sox just got a top 100 prospect and a nice additional prospect for 1/2 season of Lucas Guilito and 1/2 season of Reynaldo Lopez, I'd think KC can get a better return if pairing Singer and one of Barlow or Carlos Hernandez.

The Royals obsession with demanding guys who are major league ready will tank returns, always does.

duncan_idaho · 07-27-2023, 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

The Royals obsession with demanding guys who are major league ready will tank returns, always does.

Is that still a relevant critique, though?

We don't know that yet.

The return for Aroldis Chapman did feature Ragans, who was ready for MLB. But it also included a very far-away lottery ticket.

Hopefully that's a trend we see continue.

Mecca · 07-27-2023, 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho

Is that still a relevant critique, though?

We don't know that yet.

The return for Aroldis Chapman did feature Ragans, who was ready for MLB. But it also included a very far-away lottery ticket.

Hopefully that's a trend we see continue.

I know Piccollo said it in an interview about wanting guys who were close not long ago.

dlphg9 · 07-27-2023, 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by TomBarndtsTwin

Remember last year and the off season when almost everyone on here kept saying BWJ sucks at defense and should be moved off SS:

The Royals have two of the top 7 rated defenders via OAA. Bobby is now 2nd to Wander Franco in all of MLB. pic.twitter.com/9HKAlpCFrw
— Joel Penfield (@jtpenfield) July 27, 2023

Pepperidge Farm remembers . . . . .

TBF, he did suck at D last year, but Matheny's teams were usually pretty shitty, so anyone that wasn't a complete idiot (BWillie) wanted to give him another year to see if he improved and boy did he ever.

BWillie · 07-27-2023, 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by dlphg9

TBF, he did suck at D last year, but Matheny's teams were usually pretty shitty, so anyone that wasn't a complete idiot (BWillie) wanted to give him another year to see if he improved and boy did he ever.

Hes certainly been better but put him up there with Wander Franco is a stetch. 0.3 defensive war which is much better than what he was last year. Its just that Garcia projects to be quite a bit better than Bobby there but Im not gonna say its completely dumb to leave Bobby there with the hopes he will continue to get better defensively. Its just that Bobby should project better as a 3B and imo ESPECIALLY a CF.

https://www.espn.com/mlb/stats/playe...WARBR/dir/desc

dlphg9 · 07-27-2023, 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by BWillie

Hes certainly been better but put him up there with Wander Franco is a stetch. 0.3 defensive war which is much better than what he was last year. Its just that Garcia projects to be quite a bit better than Bobby there but Im not gonna say its completely dumb to leave Bobby there with the hopes he will continue to get better defensively. Its just that Bobby should project better as a 3B and imo ESPECIALLY a CF.

https://www.espn.com/mlb/stats/playe...WARBR/dir/desc

Among all defenders that have played at least 700 innings BWJ is 3rd on Fangraphs DEF stat.

1. Franco - 14.3
2. Tovar - 12.0
3. Witt Jr - 11.2

They are never going to move him off of SS and it'd be stupid as hell if they did. He wouldn't have to improve at defense at all and he's still playing the position at a very high level.

You can admit that you were really wrong, because you sure as shit like to gloat when you get something right.

ChiefsCountry · 07-27-2023, 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Titty Meat

Lol

https://cityscenekc.com/jackson-coun...Y7bVEAdt7JjOlo

Jackson County has shitty leadership. Not surprised there one bit.

dlphg9 · 07-27-2023, 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry

Jackson County has shitty leadership. Not surprised there one bit.

It's that whiney shit Frank White that looks to be holding it up. This has to be the reason for why the Royals are threatening to move to Clay County. Frank ain't getting reelected if he loses the Royals cuz he's a whiney little pussy and probably still holds a grudge from being fired.

ChiefsCountry · 07-27-2023, 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by dlphg9

It's that whiney shit Frank White that looks to be holding it up. This has to be the reason for why the Royals are threatening to move to Clay County. Frank ain't getting reelected if he loses the Royals cuz he's a whiney little pussy and probably still holds a grudge from being fired.

Some of its political pressure with Clay County plan but I think its also might be an actually a good plan as well knowing the people behind it.

Of course all the politicos wanted down by 18th and Vine but we know they weren't touching that area with a thousand foot pole.

dlphg9 · 07-27-2023, 06:17 PM

From that article

"The entire development would cost an estimated $2 billion, with the Royals ownership group committing more than $1 billion. The county sales tax extension would yield $300- to $350 million for the ballpark project."

So does that mean money from naming rights will cover the rest? Also will the stadium be considered a $2 bil stadium? If so that puts it at the most expensive MLB stadium and 2nd most expensive professional sports stadium only behind SoFi, which somehow cost $5.5 bil. That stadium cost more to build than 2nd ($1.9 bil), 3rd ($1.7 bil), and 4th ($1.5 bil) combined ($5.1 bil). Something isn't right with that.

ChiefsCountry · 07-27-2023, 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by dlphg9

From that article

"The entire development would cost an estimated $2 billion, with the Royals ownership group committing more than $1 billion. The county sales tax extension would yield $300- to $350 million for the ballpark project."

So does that mean money from naming rights will cover the rest? Also will the stadium be considered a $2 bil stadium? If so that puts it at the most expensive MLB stadium and 2nd most expensive professional sports stadium only behind SoFi, which somehow cost $5.5 bil. That stadium cost more to build than 2nd ($1.9 bil), 3rd ($1.7 bil), and 4th ($1.5 bil) combined ($5.1 bil). Something isn't right with that.

Stadium is billion
Entertainment District is billion

KCUnited · 07-27-2023, 06:26 PM

North of the river is interesting due to attendance logistics

There’s like 3 ways across the river which is why everything is on the downtown side

Sounds like a nightmare getting back across if they ever field a good team

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TomBarndtsTwin MVP Join Date: Mar 2013 Casino cash: $2439883	Remember last year and the off season when almost everyone on here kept saying BWJ sucks at defense and should be moved off SS: The Royals have two of the top 7 rated defenders via OAA. Bobby is now 2nd to Wander Franco in all of MLB. pic.twitter.com/9HKAlpCFrw — Joel Penfield (@jtpenfield) July 27, 2023 Pepperidge Farm remembers . . . . .
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dlphg9 In Search of a Life Join Date: Oct 2010 Casino cash: $-1470347	From that article "The entire development would cost an estimated $2 billion, with the Royals ownership group committing more than $1 billion. The county sales tax extension would yield $300- to $350 million for the ballpark project." So does that mean money from naming rights will cover the rest? Also will the stadium be considered a $2 bil stadium? If so that puts it at the most expensive MLB stadium and 2nd most expensive professional sports stadium only behind SoFi, which somehow cost $5.5 bil. That stadium cost more to build than 2nd ($1.9 bil), 3rd ($1.7 bil), and 4th ($1.5 bil) combined ($5.1 bil). Something isn't right with that.
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KCUnited Cheat Death Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Land of Drincoln Casino cash: $-1451756	North of the river is interesting due to attendance logistics There’s like 3 ways across the river which is why everything is on the downtown side Sounds like a nightmare getting back across if they ever field a good team
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